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11-07-2015 | 05:23 AM

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Yeah, what would be the point of a good pay rate at the top that most will be at for 20-30 years. Gotta get that money right now, even though you will be there for one year.

11-07-2015 | 05:24 AM

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Let the mass exodus begin!

I've been trying, easier said than done.

11-07-2015 | 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by northdakota

Yeah, what would be the point of a good pay rate at the top that most will be at for 20-30 years. Gotta get that money right now, even though you will be there for one year.

Have you ever seen a contract pay rate in place for 20-30 years?

11-07-2015 | 05:30 AM

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No, of course not. I just find it frustrating that we have to spend so much percentage "filling up" the b scale that was created in the last contract.

11-07-2015 | 05:31 AM

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Mistakes must be corrected. The B scale shouldn't have been created to begin with.

How long is one expected to be "paying dues" these days. 15-20 years? You realize most of us here have been 121 for 10+ years and many much longer. We have guys in there 50s on the B scale. But sure we'll all be at the 12yr, I mean 15yr (bullshiit) step for 30 years. Give me a break and stop pulling up the ladder.

11-07-2015 | 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by northdakota

Yeah, what would be the point of a good pay rate at the top that most will be at for 20-30 years. Gotta get that money right now, even though you will be there for one year.

This is exactly how they will justify it

11-07-2015 | 05:36 AM

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Also heard not quite current JB rates 1st year. Not sure what the "path to parity" is after that.

Well they can shove that right up their asses. I don't support ANY path to parity especially one that's not even what Jetblue has now and they are in negotiations too.

Contract 2010 was a path to parity. Was parity ever achieved? NO! Everyone renegotiates and gets raises while you are on your path. I will only vote yes to parity at date of signing with raises in each year after.

11-07-2015 | 05:36 AM

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No, of course not. I just find it frustrating that we have to spend so much percentage "filling up" the b scale that was created in the last contract.

I agree. It's frustrating to have to spend negotiating capital on building up short sighted weaknesses in the contract but it is what it is. I hope we can all be patient enough to wait for the right contract that we can all be proud of.

11-07-2015 | 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ovrtake92

Haha! They'd be pretty delusional to try to cater to the most senior with this TA so I'd doubt it. I'm sure they've focused on where the votes will be coming from. 1-5 years although I hope everybody gets a piece of the pie they deserve.

From what I am hearing this time around it is more of a linear incline. Currently our rates look like a Dynograph of a 4 banger with a Turbo the size of our engines

(hopefully the non-car folk get gist)

11-07-2015 | 05:38 AM

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Mistakes must be corrected. The B scale shouldn't have been created to begin with.

Agree 100%. Whatever we gained from that is costing x3 or x4 to fix today. The old guard still doesn't admit that a b scale was created in the first place.