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10-31-2021, 09:21 AM
#291
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Originally Posted by S4User
Implementation by end of 2022? Pardon my ignorance, but why would that take so long if the agreement is completed?
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10-31-2021, 09:44 AM
#293
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Originally Posted by YerOnGuard
Sorry, I was probably unclear. The contract would be implemented shortly after signing. PBS will be implemented by the end of 2022.
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10-31-2021, 01:02 PM
#294
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Originally Posted by S4User
Ok, that's good. Sorry, what do you mean by PBS?
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Currently, we bid hard lines, which means someone else creates all the lines. You have to manually filter through all the lines available for the month and determine which order you want to bid. The current system is a very long and time consuming way to bid.
PBS is a more efficient solution for bidding and gives pilots more flexibility in their bids. However, it’s only as good as the trips the company creates.
11-03-2021, 05:02 AM
#296
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Originally Posted by 1sInTallyVisual
What’s the status of the 2 year training contract? Does that still exist? Would they implement a new one with the new contract? TIA
11-03-2021, 07:40 AM
#297
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Originally Posted by YerOnGuard
Training contract has been eliminated for over 2 years now. It used to be pretty standard in the industry, but in today’s hiring climate, they wouldn’t even consider doing one. They used to make you pay for your own hotels while in training too, but the company pays for them now.
11-03-2021, 10:04 AM
#298
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Originally Posted by hoover
Training contracts were industry standard until two years ago? Who else had one, frontier? I'm generally curious
Also, industry standard (being the aviation industry as a whole, not necessarily only 121 carriers), training contracts were, and in some cases, still are used. Think part 135, corporate, etc. I’m sure many people have signed them who can speak to their common use in the past.
I have signed 3 training contracts in my career, the last of which was signed when I was at a regional in 2018. So, while not widely used anymore, they were definitely part of our industry not long ago.
11-03-2021, 12:58 PM
#299
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Originally Posted by YerOnGuard
I never said they were industry standard two years ago. What I said was “training contract has been eliminated for over 2 years now. It used to be pretty standard in the industry.” Both of those statements are true.
Also, industry standard (being the aviation industry as a whole, not necessarily only 121 carriers), training contracts were, and in some cases, still are used. Think part 135, corporate, etc. I’m sure many people have signed them who can speak to their common use in the past.
I have signed 3 training contracts in my career, the last of which was signed when I was at a regional in 2018. So, while not widely used anymore, they were definitely part of our industry not long ago.
Also, industry standard (being the aviation industry as a whole, not necessarily only 121 carriers), training contracts were, and in some cases, still are used. Think part 135, corporate, etc. I’m sure many people have signed them who can speak to their common use in the past.
I have signed 3 training contracts in my career, the last of which was signed when I was at a regional in 2018. So, while not widely used anymore, they were definitely part of our industry not long ago.
11-03-2021, 02:27 PM
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