Sun Country
09-21-2016, 08:31 PM
#601
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B-737
Posts: 697
Originally Posted by i fly planes
Whatever value it may or may not be, I know this "resumes on file" has zero to do with the current interview selection, hiring, one's chances, etc. Even with a resume sent in a few years ago, it's not going to be up-to-date and the pilot is probably at another company. It's irrelevant in all likelihood to speculate the amount applicants Sun Country receives and considers.
09-22-2016, 03:41 AM
#602
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Content
Posts: 122
Originally Posted by beech1980
They can't be to picky with the new contracts and the regionals paying 58k to start..
09-22-2016, 08:58 AM
#603
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 338
Originally Posted by i fly planes
This has a lot to do with the equation. Every Captain I fly with is curious as to where I, too, have my application in at. This is a quick stop for many FOs I believe.
Same story for most LCCs. If you live in MN, Sun Country could be a good deal. That's the biggest selling point they have right now, but long term the pay will have to go up.
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09-22-2016, 09:49 AM
#604
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 50
Originally Posted by beech1980
I posted was what I knew from a few years ago. I have no idea what is the case now. I do know they are accepting resumes and trying to build the resume pool back up. Take it for what it's worth... They need pilots who will stay and can sustain the growth the ownership and management wants. If sun country is where you want to work and the management team knows that you have a good chance at being hired. They can't be to picky with the new contracts and the regionals paying 58k to start..
09-22-2016, 10:39 AM
#605
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B-737
Posts: 697
Originally Posted by newpilotusa
I'd love to work for Sun Country for my entire career and I live in MSP. What are competitive numbers? How do I show them that I truly want to work there for my entire career?
I'd say competitive are 4-5kTT and turbine PIC as upgrades are fast. They want you to be able to be a captain in less than 3 years and not worry about you screwing up the operation because of a lack of leadership, or decision making skills.
Trust me they need to hire more guys who want to make it a career or it will be a revolving door of FO's and junior captains.
09-22-2016, 01:49 PM
#606
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 90
Regional or Sun Country
Currently a somewhat senior regional captain, have an opportunity to join Sun Country. Trying to make a decision, would be a paycut for the first two years. Doesn't seem to make sense to jump ship, wondering if I am missing something. Looking at all the regional guys trying to get into Sun Country and wondering what it is I am not seeing. Thanks for any insight.
09-22-2016, 04:36 PM
#607
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by 12fly
Currently a somewhat senior regional captain, have an opportunity to join Sun Country. Trying to make a decision, would be a paycut for the first two years. Doesn't seem to make sense to jump ship, wondering if I am missing something. Looking at all the regional guys trying to get into Sun Country and wondering what it is I am not seeing. Thanks for any insight.
The pros:
3 year upgrade
Growing airline
A chance to get out of the fee for departure model and work for your own airline.
B737NG
A livable wage (Its not United, and still low, but after 2 years most FOs are in the $85-$100k range. Captains are in the $100-$200k + depending on seniority.
Hometown airline culture
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
INTL and ETOPS charters
Caribbean and Mexico layovers
Good Per Diem ($500-$800 a month for layover lines)
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
Cons:
11/12 min days off
No min day pay
Scheduling flexibility is poor
401k is 6%, goes to 8%
$20,000 training contract
Not entirely commuter friendly
Lines fluctuate based on the season. A high number of "turns" in the fall and winter and lots of 4-5 days in the spring and summer.
Most people like it, even those that leave enjoyed their time for the most part. It was just time for them to move on to greener pastures.
Most people know nothing about us, but it is a really good place to work and one of the better kept secrets in the industry.
If you don't have an offer anywhere else, you should seriously think about flying here. I think you'll like it, good luck.
09-22-2016, 04:58 PM
#608
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 90
Originally Posted by Sunn
Hey 12fly, new to the forums but thought I'd chime in and give you some help with your decision.
The pros:
3 year upgrade
Growing airline
A chance to get out of the fee for departure model and work for your own airline.
B737NG
A livable wage (Its not United, and still low, but after 2 years most FOs are in the $85-$100k range. Captains are in the $100-$200k + depending on seniority.
Hometown airline culture
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
INTL and ETOPS charters
Caribbean and Mexico layovers
Good Per Diem ($500-$800 a month for layover lines)
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
Cons:
11/12 min days off
No min day pay
Scheduling flexibility is poor
401k is 6%, goes to 8%
$20,000 training contract
Not entirely commuter friendly
Lines fluctuate based on the season. A high number of "turns" in the fall and winter and lots of 4-5 days in the spring and summer.
Most people like it, even those that leave enjoyed their time for the most part. It was just time for them to move on to greener pastures.
Most people know nothing about us, but it is a really good place to work and one of the better kept secrets in the industry.
If you don't have an offer anywhere else, you should seriously think about flying here. I think you'll like it, good luck.
The pros:
3 year upgrade
Growing airline
A chance to get out of the fee for departure model and work for your own airline.
B737NG
A livable wage (Its not United, and still low, but after 2 years most FOs are in the $85-$100k range. Captains are in the $100-$200k + depending on seniority.
Hometown airline culture
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
INTL and ETOPS charters
Caribbean and Mexico layovers
Good Per Diem ($500-$800 a month for layover lines)
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
Cons:
11/12 min days off
No min day pay
Scheduling flexibility is poor
401k is 6%, goes to 8%
$20,000 training contract
Not entirely commuter friendly
Lines fluctuate based on the season. A high number of "turns" in the fall and winter and lots of 4-5 days in the spring and summer.
Most people like it, even those that leave enjoyed their time for the most part. It was just time for them to move on to greener pastures.
Most people know nothing about us, but it is a really good place to work and one of the better kept secrets in the industry.
If you don't have an offer anywhere else, you should seriously think about flying here. I think you'll like it, good luck.
. Have some serious thinking to do.
09-22-2016, 08:30 PM
#609
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B-737
Posts: 697
Originally Posted by Sunn
Hey 12fly, new to the forums but thought I'd chime in and give you some help with your decision.
The pros:
3 year upgrade
Growing airline
A chance to get out of the fee for departure model and work for your own airline.
B737NG
A livable wage (Its not United, and still low, but after 2 years most FOs are in the $85-$100k range. Captains are in the $100-$200k + depending on seniority.
Hometown airline culture
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
INTL and ETOPS charters
Caribbean and Mexico layovers
Good Per Diem ($500-$800 a month for layover lines)
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
Cons:
11/12 min days off
No min day pay
Scheduling flexibility is poor
401k is 6%, goes to 8%
$20,000 training contract
Not entirely commuter friendly
Lines fluctuate based on the season. A high number of "turns" in the fall and winter and lots of 4-5 days in the spring and summer.
Most people like it, even those that leave enjoyed their time for the most part. It was just time for them to move on to greener pastures.
Most people know nothing about us, but it is a really good place to work and one of the better kept secrets in the industry.
If you don't have an offer anywhere else, you should seriously think about flying here. I think you'll like it, good luck.
The pros:
3 year upgrade
Growing airline
A chance to get out of the fee for departure model and work for your own airline.
B737NG
A livable wage (Its not United, and still low, but after 2 years most FOs are in the $85-$100k range. Captains are in the $100-$200k + depending on seniority.
Hometown airline culture
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
INTL and ETOPS charters
Caribbean and Mexico layovers
Good Per Diem ($500-$800 a month for layover lines)
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
Cons:
11/12 min days off
No min day pay
Scheduling flexibility is poor
401k is 6%, goes to 8%
$20,000 training contract
Not entirely commuter friendly
Lines fluctuate based on the season. A high number of "turns" in the fall and winter and lots of 4-5 days in the spring and summer.
Most people like it, even those that leave enjoyed their time for the most part. It was just time for them to move on to greener pastures.
Most people know nothing about us, but it is a really good place to work and one of the better kept secrets in the industry.
If you don't have an offer anywhere else, you should seriously think about flying here. I think you'll like it, good luck.
It's not a bad place it's just there are so many more places that pay a lot more if that's what your looking for. They are trying to make it more commuter friendly. We will see if that happens. The schedules are they way they are because of the turns, the coast to coast trips and the casino charter flying.
09-23-2016, 03:41 AM
#610
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Content
Posts: 122
Originally Posted by Sunn
after 2 years most FOs are in the $85-$100k range.
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
Ability to credit 100-120+ hrs as an FO in most months
150% for open time pickup above 75hrs.
Turn Lines are 17-21 days off. Layover lines are around 14-16 days off
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