crosswind landing techniques Challenger 604
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Need any tips anyone can provide. Been flying Falcons most of my career and now flying a Challenger 604. Need any tips on Crosswind landings in this jet. Very different then a Falcon from the feel to the pitch attitude and use of controls.


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You're probably trying not to overcontrol, but the 604 has stupid small ailerons with no spoiler assist, and the gear doesn't like side-load. Likely you need larger and more aggressive roll inputs. Wing down top rudder and don't try to hold it off in the flare because you can run out of aileron.
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Decrab, really a combination of decrab with a few degrees of wing low, is the way to go.
GF
#7

Well Falcon's are engineered to fly nice while Bombardier doesn't care.
You're probably trying not to overcontrol, but the 604 has stupid small ailerons with no spoiler assist, and the gear doesn't like side-load. Likely you need larger and more aggressive roll inputs. Wing down top rudder and don't try to hold it off in the flare because you can run out of aileron.
You're probably trying not to overcontrol, but the 604 has stupid small ailerons with no spoiler assist, and the gear doesn't like side-load. Likely you need larger and more aggressive roll inputs. Wing down top rudder and don't try to hold it off in the flare because you can run out of aileron.
#8

Careful with any plane having geometry limits. 8⁰ will start scraping tips on a C-5 and a Global if get the body angle a little above normal. I’ve done several investigations on scrapes. Surprisingly, many are no where near the demonstrated crosswind limits.
Decrab, really a combination of decrab with a few degrees of wing low, is the way to go.
GF
Decrab, really a combination of decrab with a few degrees of wing low, is the way to go.
GF
#9

I know it all kind of happens together, but I’ve always put in the rudder first. The proper amount of rudder aligns the a/c with the runway. You can’t know how much wing to put down in order to kill the drift until you have the correct amount of rudder in.
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