Trans States Emergency Meeting
#21
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I THINK they were calling CA's to fly the right seat last year??? So how many FO's are there in St. Louis? Again, the airline was run with around 5 reserves in St. Louis when things got tight and not many flights were cancelled. I am sure the majority of you guys will get tired of it and leave too.
and when I talked to scheduling the other day, she said that she had to have 11 for coverage, and she only rounded up 8 or 9
and they moved 20 out of ric for april, and think that brings the count somwhere between 120 and 130 FO's in STL
I just looked and it is showing 121 Fo's for april
dont know how many of them have quit though
#23
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that was on the latest memo
I am not real sure what they are going to do, and I am not sure they know they know what they are going to do
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there is this thing called....ahh jeeze..... whats that one thing......oh yeah.....INSURANCE. Hulas will always look for the Cheapest insurance, they look for the cheapest everything. Fat Bastard even gloats about saving pennies on garbage bags, but furloughing 50 people just to replace them 2 months later and the 100s that have quit. Thats ok, as long as your using your HEFTY coupons. What a bunch of tards. A junior high business class could run that place better than that.
Google the term Hulas Kanodia and the first target is "Low Costs as a Way of Life" Its that million dollar bridge to pick up a quarter thats killing them.
http://www.atwonline.com/channels/ai...articleID=1149
If this is how they think about trash bags or Vendor B, how do you think they care about their pilots, the same way, ********** trash. I am rid of TSA forever and I hope they fall apart this summer and every pilot at TSA moves on to bigger and better things.
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#26
trans states has had a rep for hiring some low time guys, but they do not budge at all for performance. Its actually a good way to hire because the difference between 500 hours and 1500 hours could be a simple difference of how many landings you have saved in the pattern. Until there is quite a bit of IFR cross country experience, most instructing is just adding hours into your logbook. So I think its a relatively good thing to hire people and give them a shot, if they cant cut it, so be it. I definatley think TSAs training was very thorough and fair. If you didnt make it, probably a good thing. Thats one thing I will give TSA props for is the training department, most every captain I flew with was very knowledgeable, professional with the door open, and all in all a damn good pilot.
We complain about the degrading of our industry all the time. But if Trans States budges at all on the quality of their training, we are going to have more boneheads flying in our profession. More and more people are trying to become pilots without college degrees . Next thing you know there could be high school dropouts flying these planes. Training needs to be tough. If you can pass a tough, respectable training course, we shouldn't care so much about experience. Now if someone is lowering their mins and lowering their standards, we are going to have a problem, and nothing will be done about it until we have a crash that kills people!!!!
#27
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[/b] of their training, we are going to have more boneheads flying in our profession. More and more people are trying to become pilots without college degrees . Next thing you know there could be high school dropouts flying these planes. Training needs to be tough. If you can pass a tough, respectable training course, we shouldn't care so much about experience. Now if someone is lowering their mins and lowering their standards, we are going to have a problem, and nothing will be done about it until we have a crash that kills people!!!!
Absent the above requested source, do you have any personal experience backing up your implication?
About disregarding experience in favor of training, I'd like to see a source supporting that, too. Even the best training is only a foundation to build on. The building process is experience. There's more to flying than stick wiggling.
#28
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Ryane946, boy you talk like you've got flying and this industry figured all out. You don't know jack.
You couldn't be more off base here.
I know many many excellent and sharp pilots that do not have degrees. They are more safe and more humble than many of the college grads I fly with. And before you ask, YES I have my masters.
I've just got to ask who you fly for?
You couldn't be more off base here.
I know many many excellent and sharp pilots that do not have degrees. They are more safe and more humble than many of the college grads I fly with. And before you ask, YES I have my masters.
I've just got to ask who you fly for?
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