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Old 03-03-2015 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside
Just because you can't hold a line or upgrade, don't bring your crybaby attitude here.
Get over yourself. Those hired today as CQFO's will have to wait until all Fo's senior to them upgrade before they will get a chance to hold a line as captain. As they get desperate for pilots these mins will probably be reduced even more making the wait even longer. Have spoke to a few CQFO newhires that are quite upset about what's happening there.
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Old 03-03-2015 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Get over yourself. Those hired today as CQFO's will have to wait until all Fo's senior to them upgrade before they will get a chance to hold a line as captain. As they get desperate for pilots these mins will probably be reduced even more making the wait even longer. Have spoke to a few CQFO newhires that are quite upset about what's happening there.
I guarantee most CQFO on property will be lineholders by Sept. You've spoken to one or two people maybe.
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Old 03-03-2015 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Look how they just lowered the minimums. As a CQFO you will be reserve for a LONG time...
They lowered the mins for FOs on property by 500 hours. That isn't a big change.
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Old 03-03-2015 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Look how they just lowered the minimums. As a CQFO you will be reserve for a LONG time...
If TSA is able to staff all the aircraft, no one will be sitting reserve for a long time...whether you're a CQFO new hire, or a regular new hire. If you're already in the system, you'll upgrade to captain quickly...for the CQFO's you'll be bumped down time and time again, so getting a good line will be incredibly difficult...but it will eventually happen...and if not, you'll hopefully acquire enough Turbine PIC to be competitive to move on before it gets really desperate.
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Old 03-03-2015 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Get over yourself. Those hired today as CQFO's will have to wait until all Fo's senior to them upgrade before they will get a chance to hold a line as captain. As they get desperate for pilots these mins will probably be reduced even more making the wait even longer. Have spoke to a few CQFO newhires that are quite upset about what's happening there.
They can't lower mins much more. Even without any insurance mins, the law requires 1000 hours of 121 time to be pic. For the vast majority of pilots that is a bare minimum of 2500 hours (1500 hours to get ATP + 1000 as an FO). And for military and college aviation program grads 1750 and 2000/2250 respectively are the ABSOLUTE minimums.
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Old 03-03-2015 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Get over yourself. Those hired today as CQFO's will have to wait until all Fo's senior to them upgrade before they will get a chance to hold a line as captain. As they get desperate for pilots these mins will probably be reduced even more making the wait even longer. Have spoke to a few CQFO newhires that are quite upset about what's happening there.
Maybe the new cqfo you talked to don't understand the contract or don't understand what lowering of the minimums really mean.

But I will get over myself when you come back in this thread in maybe a few months. Find that you're actually wrong about everything. And you realize that you spent all this time bashing trans states for no reason. Then admit it to everyone, that you were actually wrong. Then see that cqfo are actually line holder captains.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8tor12
Im interested and have gone to the website and talked to the recruiter. Just wanted a different perspective.
Ok, my bad.
Look, the perspective is - almost nobody describes any regional as a good deal, but as regionals go, TSA is not a bad place. Signed contracts for expansion combined with attrition to majors will upgrade you within a year and half. Labor and management are getting along well. They are implementing a Preferential Bidding System. Do we have the best contract - Nevets says no and I agree, but of those with better contracts most are not growing and have arguably worse corporate relations/climate.
As for CQFO, even if you never spend a day in the left seat, you'll be making almost 2x what you would as a straight FO, and you'll upgrade to CA soon anyway.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Case I
Ok, my bad.
Look, the perspective is - almost nobody describes any regional as a good deal, but as regionals go, TSA is not a bad place. Signed contracts for expansion combined with attrition to majors will upgrade you within a year and half. Labor and management are getting along well. They are implementing a Preferential Bidding System. Do we have the best contract - Nevets says no and I agree, but of those with better contracts most are not growing and have arguably worse corporate relations/climate.
As for CQFO, even if you never spend a day in the left seat, you'll be making almost 2x what you would as a straight FO, and you'll upgrade to CA soon anyway.
You say "they are implementing a PBS system" like it is a good thing.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 05:53 PM
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Looks like the first six CQFOs are Bidding captain reserve lines in IAD.
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Old 03-04-2015 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
You say "they are implementing a PBS system" like it is a good thing.
Seconded, unless there are big time protections in place for the pilot group regarding PBS.
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