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Old 02-07-2016, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wise810 View Post
Any word on how RDU is doing, domicile-wise? What's a typical day like?
No different than the STL American flying.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by B200 Hawk View Post
Is "limo"ing protected by the commuter clause? Anyone know.
Why wouldn't it be?
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
Still small which means inefficient. Oxley said the main reason it remains small is due to flight attendants. You'll start out going to LGA/JFK/PIT and spend most of your time in and out of Canada and other short legs
What about the start and finishing times of the trips for commutability?
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sflpilot View Post
What about the start and finishing times of the trips for commutability?
the trips are not commuter friendly. Hopefully that changes next month.
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Originally Posted by sflpilot View Post
What about the start and finishing times of the trips for commutability?
If you look at the pairings, you'll see they are not very friendly. Especially since it is not a hub.
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:26 PM
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How much longer should we expect it to take for a PBS update?
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Planedrive View Post
How much longer should we expect it to take for a PBS update?
MZ said something on FB the other day. He said the MEC are writing/explaining each document. But no date was given, just expect it soon.
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Old 02-12-2016, 06:42 AM
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My thoughts on pbs: what do we lose voting it down? The company invested a lot of time and money into pbs, they need it to help with staffing, and it will save them lots of money. If we vote down their first offer, do you think they would just drop the whole idea of pbs? Or do you think they would renegotiate a better offer with the union?

It will be interesting to see what is in this loa. I think pbs would be more convenient than the line bidding we have now, and possibly give me some more control over days off, types of pairings I fly, etc. However it is a concession from the pilot group from the standpoint that the company will get more work out of us for less pay. Unless this loa would make our contract truly industry leading, and/or it contains a commutair type 'flow', it will likely be a no vote from me... Afterall, it is our last bargaining chip until this mediocre contract extension becomes amenable in 2018... and I don't want to just sit back and watch other airlines make big gains while we wait for 2018+ to get here. Not to mention, I really hope the gojet contract is released before this goes to a vote. If our alter ego really gets this industry leading contract that it is rumored to be, and we vote in PBS for some mediocre improvements the joke will really be on us.
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Old 02-12-2016, 06:50 AM
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You're a tool.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bellanca View Post
My thoughts on pbs: what do we lose voting it down? The company invested a lot of time and money into pbs, they need it to help with staffing, and it will save them lots of money. If we vote down their first offer, do you think they would just drop the whole idea of pbs? Or do you think they would renegotiate a better offer with the union?

It will be interesting to see what is in this loa. I think pbs would be more convenient than the line bidding we have now, and possibly give me some more control over days off, types of pairings I fly, etc. However it is a concession from the pilot group from the standpoint that the company will get more work out of us for less pay. Unless this loa would make our contract truly industry leading, and/or it contains a commutair type 'flow', it will likely be a no vote from me... Afterall, it is our last bargaining chip until this mediocre contract extension becomes amenable in 2018... and I don't want to just sit back and watch other airlines make big gains while we wait for 2018+ to get here. Not to mention, I really hope the gojet contract is released before this goes to a vote. If our alter ego really gets this industry leading contract that it is rumored to be, and we vote in PBS for some mediocre improvements the joke will really be on us.
I pretty much agree with everything you said.
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