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02-01-2019, 03:58 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
No one is forced to join a union.
Even for pilots: there are plenty of non-union positions out there in corporate aviation. Even a few positions at premier airlines on 30th St in MIA.
Even for pilots: there are plenty of non-union positions out there in corporate aviation. Even a few positions at premier airlines on 30th St in MIA.
02-01-2019, 04:01 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by stabapch
. ALPA exists solely for its lobbying ability, not for the benefit of its members that pay into it.
My ALPA scheduling committee just got me several thousand dollars for a scheduling contract violation. I’ll I had to do was email them.
How do you explain this?
I explain it as dues well spent and an impressive ROI. I guess you’d call it “corruption.”
02-01-2019, 04:04 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by stabapch
Wrong. I apply to an airline, not a union. But, when I’m hired I’m forced to join a union that I may not agree with where there leadership is taking me. Unions choose to take advantage of management through numbers, with never 100 percent of employees agreement to get what they want. I will work under the contract they negotiate because there is no other choice because that’s THERE choice how to handle management, that’s apparently the nature of the business son, but still doesn’t mean I should be required by law to pay ‘contract fees’ if I want nothing to do with them. I don’t work for ALPA, I work for the airline.
02-01-2019, 04:20 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Again (and we’re going around in circles now,) why don’t you work for a non-union airline. Or a corporate flight department. You and Sonicflyer would fit in perfectly. Let us know what superior pay and benefits you’re able to negotiate with your obvious superior flying skills and rugged individualism.
02-01-2019, 04:28 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by stabapch
No circles here bud. Again to repeat myself, I work for an airline, NOT a union. I DON’T apply to a union for a job, I apply to airline. Hence why I should not have dues (fees) taken out if I don’t agree with their leadership. You guys chose to unionize and ‘negotiate’ a contract, tough sh*t I get to work under it because I have no choice, but I shouldn’t be mandated to pay anything by law. It’s very simple, deal with the consequences of backing your ‘brotherhood’.
02-01-2019, 04:30 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Curious.
My ALPA scheduling committee just got me several thousand dollars for a scheduling contract violation. I’ll I had to do was email them.
How do you explain this?
I explain it as dues well spent and an impressive ROI. I guess you’d call it “corruption.”
My ALPA scheduling committee just got me several thousand dollars for a scheduling contract violation. I’ll I had to do was email them.
How do you explain this?
I explain it as dues well spent and an impressive ROI. I guess you’d call it “corruption.”
But wait I’ll get back to ya in a few months since all work rules violations are posted for public witness. Then I’ll validate your statement and we’ll talk.
02-01-2019, 04:33 PM
#27
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Originally Posted by stabapch
No you didn’t.
But wait I’ll get back to ya in a few months since all work rules violations are posted for public witness. Then I’ll validate your statement and we’ll talk.
But wait I’ll get back to ya in a few months since all work rules violations are posted for public witness. Then I’ll validate your statement and we’ll talk.
All work rule violations are posted? WTF are you taking about?
Nice job trolling.
I’m done with this.
02-01-2019, 04:37 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Ok. What kind of pay and benefits do you expect to negotiate without the shackles of collective bargaining? When it’s time to upgrade and management says, “Thanks for earning that 4th stripe, stabaph. BTW, we’re going to pay you 20% less than your ALPA peers,” what will be your response?
02-01-2019, 05:00 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I didn’t what?
All work rule violations are posted? WTF are you taking about?
Nice job trolling.
I’m done with this.
All work rule violations are posted? WTF are you taking about?
Nice job trolling.
I’m done with this.
02-03-2019, 11:27 AM
#30
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One of my co-workers quit ALPA due to a disagreement over how they handled something. He is till employed and dues come out of his pay. He does get money back at the end of the year. He pays a service fee, but does not get the protection etc. that ALPA gives.
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