Vote NO to TA Delta pilots
08-07-2008, 08:25 AM
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One other note. Why does nobody put in their two cents on the NWA vote. Is it that great a deal for NWA guys that the approval from NWA side is a forgone conclusion and all we hear is why the DAL side needs to vote yes so you have one big happy family. Maybe that has a influence on folks on the fence
It's pretty accurate.
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08-07-2008, 09:05 AM
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Whether one is a "yes" voter or a "no" voter, I think it's hard to debate that the MEC is pushing the panic button pretty hard.
08-07-2008, 10:46 AM
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Does anybody really believe a DAL no vote will not create a need by management and ALPA to quickly get back together to seek a solution that will get a combined contract on the property. Whatever those solutions are, there are changes to be made that can make this acceptable to all. In the mean time quit trying to influence votes with a end of the world senario. That is why we vote.
One other note. Why does nobody put in their two cents on the NWA vote. Is it that great a deal for NWA guys that the approval from NWA side is a forgone conclusion and all we hear is why the DAL side needs to vote yes so you have one big happy family. Maybe that has a influence on folks on the fence
One other note. Why does nobody put in their two cents on the NWA vote. Is it that great a deal for NWA guys that the approval from NWA side is a forgone conclusion and all we hear is why the DAL side needs to vote yes so you have one big happy family. Maybe that has a influence on folks on the fence
We all took paycuts. This logic is the same as telling your wife she can get a new car from Ford, agreeing to the new car, then having her turn around at the dealer and say "since you can afford to pay for a new Ford, you can obviously afford to buy a new Lexus. I'm your wife, and I'm worth it plus I deserve it." The economic reality is you can only afford the Ford, but the wife thinks because you have cash for one, you must certainly be able to afford the other. If she withholds sex until you come up with a Lexus are you any more financially sound for having done so?
08-07-2008, 10:54 AM
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I don't think anyone is accusing management of "withholding sex." Unfortunately, the sex they are providing is rather uncomfortable, and is probably illegal in Georgia and several other states. It is, however, perfectly legal (and even encouraged) in Minnesota.
Going back to your wife/Ford/Lexus analogy--if you received a bonus or some other variable changed--i.e., your cost of doing business just dropped by a huge factor since you convinced her you could only afford an Escort...well, you're damn skippy she's going to want a piece of that cash!
Going back to your wife/Ford/Lexus analogy--if you received a bonus or some other variable changed--i.e., your cost of doing business just dropped by a huge factor since you convinced her you could only afford an Escort...well, you're damn skippy she's going to want a piece of that cash!
08-07-2008, 12:19 PM
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Going back to your wife/Ford/Lexus analogy--if you received a bonus or some other variable changed--i.e., your cost of doing business just dropped by a huge factor since you convinced her you could only afford an Escort...well, you're damn skippy she's going to want a piece of that cash!
But you guys already ponied up for the new car, signed on the dotted line, and paid retail. The dealer already has your money. How exactly are you going to get it back?
You MIGHT have been able to negotiate for 2 nice Caddys for the same price, but you didn't want to give a finders fee to your "Detroit Connection".
But hey, you got your Ford, and since the dealer hooked a sucker that paid full retail for the "Ford Escort LOA ", he can afford to cut some slack to the next customer in line for the Caddy.
Enjoy your Escort.
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08-07-2008, 12:21 PM
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Heyas Spliff,
But you guys already ponied up for the new car, signed on the dotted line, and paid retail. The dealer already has your money. How exactly are you going to get it back?
You MIGHT have been able to negotiate for 2 nice Caddys for the same price, but you didn't want to give a finders fee to your "Detroit Connection".
But hey, you got your Ford, and since the dealer hooked a sucker that paid full retail for the "Ford Escort LOA ", he can afford to cut some slack to the next customer in line for the Caddy.
Enjoy your Escort.
Nu
But you guys already ponied up for the new car, signed on the dotted line, and paid retail. The dealer already has your money. How exactly are you going to get it back?
You MIGHT have been able to negotiate for 2 nice Caddys for the same price, but you didn't want to give a finders fee to your "Detroit Connection".
But hey, you got your Ford, and since the dealer hooked a sucker that paid full retail for the "Ford Escort LOA ", he can afford to cut some slack to the next customer in line for the Caddy.
Enjoy your Escort.
Nu
08-07-2008, 12:44 PM
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The only "sad" part is when NWA guys pretend to know what's best for DAL guys.
Guess what, our best interests are aligned on a couple of issues. But not on most issues. I'd be mighty obliged if you NWA guys would sit down and **** when it comes to DAL issues until this whole thing is resolved.
We know you want the money and widebody slots and southern bases. Whether you'll get them is another matter entirely.
Guess what, our best interests are aligned on a couple of issues. But not on most issues. I'd be mighty obliged if you NWA guys would sit down and **** when it comes to DAL issues until this whole thing is resolved.
We know you want the money and widebody slots and southern bases. Whether you'll get them is another matter entirely.
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08-07-2008, 12:54 PM
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08-07-2008, 01:08 PM
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This isnt about any single person its about the collective group. The sooner that is realized the better our future as a combined pilot group will be. Not everyone wants a southern base and widebody flying fwiw.
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