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Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2293359)

Because the federal government constantly breaks the law

So we're agreed: "Right to Work (for less)" laws trample on contract law and are a government intrusion in the marketplace.

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Originally Posted by awax (Post 2292906)

Back to the days when you'd show your ID AND Union Card if you want to ride the jumpseat.

[emoji1369]. Exactly.

No one wants to pay more than the gong rate for anything. To an employer, what makes one pilot more valuable than thousands of others with equal ratings? Of course I'm more valuable in my mnd but good luck convincing anyone else. Flying is not that exclusive and we all punch a clock. We would be better off improving the front end of our careers instead of trying to get it all at the end.

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Originally Posted by kevbo (Post 2293478)

We would be better off improving the front end of our careers instead of trying to get it all at the end.

I would say yes except that, if there's anything worse than living hand to mouth as a youngster, it's doing the same with a worn out back at 60.

Support agency shop fees.

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2293391)

So we're agreed: "Right to Work (for less)" laws trample on contract law and are a government intrusion in the marketplace.

No, national labor laws are unconstitutional. The state level is a different matter.

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Originally Posted by kevbo (Post 2293478)

No one wants to pay more than the gong rate for anything.

Then why is the pay rate for Delta, FedEx, United, UPS, and American all different from each other? And why do they pay more than the majors?

Yes lots of people will buy based on price, but not everyone. Some people want the best and are willing to pay for it. Businesses are the same way. They want the best most experienced pilots and are willing to pay for it.

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2293387)

Republicans proposed this RTW bill, which will allow union non-members to receive compensation and benefits negotiated by union members (along with union representation!) without paying a dime in dues to aforementioned union.

Is that not the definition of free-loading - taking advantage of others' efforts while contributing nothing?

Again, federal labor laws are not authorized by the Constitution.

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2293387)

Nobody holds a gun to your head and makes you work in a closed shop; no, an individual has a CHOICE to do that or take their services elsewhere. If an individual CHOOSES to work in a closed shop, being a member of the collective bargaining agent is kinda part of the deal. You know, freedom of choice and all...

I agree, but unions should not be given special benefits and privileges by the government, on any level. A business should not be forced into a union if they do not want to be. And they should be able to choose whether or not they want to have both union and non-union employees.

If unionism is such a good idea, then why do you have to force people to join? :confused:

NM, where do yo work? Just curious?

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Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2293533)

Businesses aren't forced into a union. As a matter of fact, no one is forced to join a union.

But it's only fair that a non-union member pay a fee for the services provided, right? Why haven't you answered that question?

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Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2293527)

Compensation packages drift depending on the economic conditions during contract negotiations. Pilots at the majors took their 30% cut, downgrades, and decade of frozen pay because it was still better than any other job that they were qualified to do. UPS truck drivers make more than most major pilots under 45 these days.