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01-31-2017 | 03:05 PM

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National Free Ride legislation

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-introduces-national-right-to-work-legislation/article/2613428

01-31-2017 | 03:57 PM

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"Right to Work (for Less.)"

01-31-2017 | 05:47 PM

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Good. The federal government has no authority to deal with labor issues, except for immigration.

01-31-2017 | 07:30 PM

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Oh great, let's work for peanuts and let management crap all over us more than they already do. The unions should be better but they're better than not having one.

02-01-2017 | 04:53 AM

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Good. The federal government has no authority to deal with labor issues, except for immigration.

Agreed. How about we let the free market work unencumbered? And allow unions and companies to sign -- and abide by -- contracts without government interference?

While we're at it I'd like free insurance and someone to negotiate my next raise -- without having to pay them.

02-01-2017 | 03:43 PM

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So basically...a union has to bargain for you and represent you if you're called in by a manager but you're not required to pay anything for those services.

Of course they throw in key words like "freedom" and "choice" to make it sound like it's an amazing thing.

It's purpose has nothing to do with freedom, and it has everything to do with getting rid of those pesky unions that negotiate better wages & benefits.

02-01-2017 | 04:11 PM

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Agreed. How about we let the free market work unencumbered? And allow unions and companies to sign -- and abide by -- contracts without government interference?

Government's job is to enforce contracts, so yeah sure sounds good to me.

02-01-2017 | 04:12 PM

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So basically...a union has to bargain for you and represent you if you're called in by a manager but you're not required to pay anything for those services.

Maybe you don't want their services?

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It's purpose has nothing to do with freedom, and it has everything to do with getting rid of those pesky unions that negotiate better wages & benefits.

First off, federal labor laws are unconstitutional, which is the issue at stake here.

Secondly, why should someone be forced to pay dues to someone just to work? That is the very definition of theft.

02-01-2017 | 05:29 PM

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Maybe you don't want their services?

First off, federal labor laws are unconstitutional, which is the issue at stake here.

Secondly, why should someone be forced to pay dues to someone just to work? That is the very definition of theft.

You realize this would simply allow a race to the bottom? Further eviscerating what's left of the middle class? A union negotiates a certain level of compensation and work rules, then someone comes in off the street (let's call him a "rugged individualist") and wants a job without having to pay (prolly less than 1%) dues. He doesn't want representation because he believes in freedommm!!!.

Will the wages/work rules he negotiates be ...
(a) higher
(b) the same
(c) lower

If (c) then you can see where this leads. Bangledesh here we come.

02-01-2017 | 05:52 PM

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You fail to see the other side of the equation... many business don't want bottom feeder employees, so they are willing to pay more for higher quality. Put another way, not everyone buys on price alone. Some people will buy a BMW, while others will buy a Ford. There are at least two sides to every market.