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Old 02-02-2017 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NMuir
Again, federal labor laws are not authorized by the Constitution.
Commerce Clause. It has become the Swiss Army Knife of Congress.
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Old 02-02-2017 | 09:34 PM
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Commerce Clause. It has become the Swiss Army Knife of Congress.
Sad, but true.... even though the Commerce Clause is actually restrictive, not expansive.
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Old 02-02-2017 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kevbo
UPS truck drivers make more than most major pilots under 45 these days.
Cite your source?
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Old 02-02-2017 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Businesses aren't forced into a union.
You need to go back and read the law.
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Old 02-02-2017 | 11:56 PM
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So in a "Right to Work (for less)" scenario if a guy walks into FedEx and says, "Hey, I'm a "rugged individualist. I'd like to work for 75% of what your pilots covered under the CBA are working for-- with no job protections."

Do you think:
(a) They'd hire him.
(b) They'd like to hire more guys like him and fewer under a CBA.
(b) It would have any effect on the negotiations for the rest of the pilot group.

If you're a pilot, you can see where this whole thing leads.

And we're still waiting to hear about how freeloaders should be dealt with.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
So in a "Right to Work (for less)" scenario if a guy walks into FedEx and says, "Hey, I'm a "rugged individualist. I'd like to work for 75% of what your pilots covered under the CBA are working for-- with no job protections."

Do you think:
(a) They'd hire him.
(b) They'd like to hire more guys like him and fewer under a CBA.
(b) It would have any effect on the negotiations for the rest of the pilot group.

If you're a pilot, you can see where this whole thing leads.

And we're still waiting to hear about how freeloaders should be dealt with.
It would depend on the circumstances, his qualifications, and what the company needs/wants.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NMuir
It would depend on the circumstances, his qualifications, and what the company needs/wants.
So if he was qualified he could make 25% less in lieu of 2% union dues? Sweet deal!!
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Old 02-03-2017 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
NM, where do yo work? Just curious?
I'd wager Harrison & Ford.......
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Old 02-03-2017 | 09:26 AM
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I have a hard time believing he believes what he writes. My guess is he's interning at Cato.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NMuir
Cite your source?
Most major pilots under 45 are new hires, they don't make s--t.
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