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tomgoodman 02-02-2017 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2293533)
Again, federal labor laws are not authorized by the Constitution.

Commerce Clause. It has become the Swiss Army Knife of Congress. :rolleyes:

NMuir 02-02-2017 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2293798)
Commerce Clause. It has become the Swiss Army Knife of Congress. :rolleyes:

Sad, but true.... even though the Commerce Clause is actually restrictive, not expansive.

NMuir 02-02-2017 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by kevbo (Post 2293714)
UPS truck drivers make more than most major pilots under 45 these days.

Cite your source?

NMuir 02-02-2017 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2293570)
Businesses aren't forced into a union.

You need to go back and read the law.

GogglesPisano 02-02-2017 11:56 PM

So in a "Right to Work (for less)" scenario if a guy walks into FedEx and says, "Hey, I'm a "rugged individualist. I'd like to work for 75% of what your pilots covered under the CBA are working for-- with no job protections."

Do you think:
(a) They'd hire him.
(b) They'd like to hire more guys like him and fewer under a CBA.
(b) It would have any effect on the negotiations for the rest of the pilot group.

If you're a pilot, you can see where this whole thing leads.

And we're still waiting to hear about how freeloaders should be dealt with.

NMuir 02-03-2017 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2293842)
So in a "Right to Work (for less)" scenario if a guy walks into FedEx and says, "Hey, I'm a "rugged individualist. I'd like to work for 75% of what your pilots covered under the CBA are working for-- with no job protections."

Do you think:
(a) They'd hire him.
(b) They'd like to hire more guys like him and fewer under a CBA.
(b) It would have any effect on the negotiations for the rest of the pilot group.

If you're a pilot, you can see where this whole thing leads.

And we're still waiting to hear about how freeloaders should be dealt with.

It would depend on the circumstances, his qualifications, and what the company needs/wants.

Lear Driver 02-03-2017 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2294011)
It would depend on the circumstances, his qualifications, and what the company needs/wants.

So if he was qualified he could make 25% less in lieu of 2% union dues? Sweet deal!!

vroll1800 02-03-2017 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 2293554)
NM, where do yo work? Just curious?

I'd wager Harrison & Ford.......

GogglesPisano 02-03-2017 09:26 AM

I have a hard time believing he believes what he writes. My guess is he's interning at Cato.

kevbo 02-03-2017 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by NMuir (Post 2293818)
Cite your source?

Most major pilots under 45 are new hires, they don't make s--t.


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