krudawg

What seniority is used in deciding who rides the jumpseat? Lets say you have 1990 pilot seniority but were hired in 1987 to work on the ramp. Do you have priority over somebody with 1989 PILOT seniority with a company seniority of 1987? Where can I find the written answer?

McNugent

Your jumpseat pass has your pilot seniority number on it. Your initial hire date at United isn't taken into account.

bigfatdaddy

Orville and Wilbur will always be senior to you/me....Always!

krudawg

Is that your opinion or do you have a source document that specifically speaks about that.

ReadyRsv

This is correct information. Your seniority number is right there in bold print.

Short Bus Drive

Go to EmployeeRes, and it will show your standing...

krudawg

So everytime this happens it is expected that the Captain who is authorizing the use of his/her jumpseat, must log into Employee Res and input the information. That's a major pain. There has got to be an easier way

ugleeual

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You hand the captain the JS access card... he compares it to the other JS cards (looking for UAL seniority if applicable)... and then he says either your GTG or SOL.

Lerxst

Not always true.. Emp Res sorts by company hire date not pilot seniority. For example, A Calex flow thru pilot might have an earlier hire date for pass travel vs sen list position and will not be reflected in correct seniority order in Emp Res.

The JS SHOULD be awarded in correct sen order now as the system has the current seniority list programed in. The sen numbers printed are always off for some reason, but the ordering is accurate.

krudawg

The problem is that the boarding pass for the cabin shows company seniority. I don't believe the jumpseat pass shows "Pilot Seniority" I believe that is where the problem arose. This event actually happened and the Captain allowed the pilot with the "company date of hire" to ride over the more senior PILOT Seniority number. Both the Captain and the F/O were looking for answers for guidance in the UPA and the FOM and could not find guidance. The argument from the more senior Pilot with the more senior PILOT Seniority is that it is a PILOT Jumpseat and that Pilot Seniority should take precedence. The Captain through his arms up in the air and gave the less senior pilot seniority the Jumpseat (but the pilot had a more senior COMPANY seniority) "I can't find any written guidance "so I am defaulting to the more senior pilot with COMPANY seniority."
I am posting this situation NOT for opinions but am soliciting for facts with written guidance - I may be faced with this dilemma one day.