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Old 06-17-2017 | 12:13 PM
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You're not going to contribute $18K/year to the TSP until well into your career. Maybe $5-10K, but even that's a stretch.
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Old 06-17-2017 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
You're not going to contribute $18K/year to the TSP until well into your career. Maybe $5-10K, but even that's a stretch.
True statement. O-3 AD pay I was making just shy of 6k/month take home pay. It would take another 25% bite of that to max the TSP every year.
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Old 06-17-2017 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flensr
18k (max contribution should keep increasing but we can assume 18k...) per year for 20 years at 7% will get you somewhere around $800,000 at military retirement. Assume that money sits untouched for the next 20 years until "real" retirement, and it'll be over 2.8 million bucks. Thats at just 7% and assumes zero retirement investing between military and "real" retirement. Continue the 18k investment for a full 40 years and even at just 7% it'll be over 3.5 mil.
Others have already pointed a major flaw in your calculations - the ability to save $1500/mo as an O1-O3, but let's run with the $1500/mo earning 7%. That comes out to ~$761K after 20 years; you opted to aggressively round it up to $800K.
An O1 under 2 grosses $3034.80/month. I suppose if he lives on ramen and has a bicycle for transportation, he could bank $1500/mo but it would be a miserable existence.

Still, you're talking tomorrow's dollars and are ignoring the effect of 20 years' worth of inflation.

Instead of using $18K/yr, how about someone use the 2017 match of 5% plus 5% individual contribution. Then compare that to a 20% reduction in retirement pay. I haven't worked the numbers but I'm sure they're out there somewhere.
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Old 06-17-2017 | 04:21 PM
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All your assumptions sound so easy and good, except you left out one, life.

And as an airline pilot you also forgot to mention the cost of the divorce or two you earned while chasing the F/A or your "girlfriend" in Asia (or any other foreign port you may visit).
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Old 06-17-2017 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
All your assumptions sound so easy and good, except you left out one, life.

And as an airline pilot you also forgot to mention the cost of the divorce or two you earned while chasing the F/A or your "girlfriend" in Asia (or any other foreign port you may visit).
"When I was younger, I spent my money on good whiskey, fast cars, and fast women. The rest, I spent foolishly."
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Old 06-19-2017 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Others have already pointed a major flaw in your calculations - the ability to save $1500/mo as an O1-O3, but let's run with the $1500/mo earning 7%. That comes out to ~$761K after 20 years; you opted to aggressively round it up to $800K.
An O1 under 2 grosses $3034.80/month. I suppose if he lives on ramen and has a bicycle for transportation, he could bank $1500/mo but it would be a miserable existence.

Still, you're talking tomorrow's dollars and are ignoring the effect of 20 years' worth of inflation.

Instead of using $18K/yr, how about someone use the 2017 match of 5% plus 5% individual contribution. Then compare that to a 20% reduction in retirement pay. I haven't worked the numbers but I'm sure they're out there somewhere.
Are the contributions out of pre tax or post tax earnings?

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Old 06-19-2017 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rp2pilot
Are the contributions out of pre tax or post tax earnings?
Pretax unless you're in a combat zone.
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Old 06-19-2017 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Pretax unless you're in a combat zone.
TSP has both regular and Roth options.
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Old 06-19-2017 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by flensr
TSP has both regular and Roth options.
Sorry, OLD info. It's obviously changed since I retired.
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