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XHooker 06-09-2017 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2376576)
He wrote a newsletter called the "Magenta Line" that highlighted every management shortcoming and fu- especially calling into question Fred Abbott's decision making ability. He was told to cease and desist (allegedly) but kept writing anyway. Shortly after, they issued a bid that moved a huge anount of 737 flying from EWR to IAH which tilted the division of the house vote from EWR to IAH. No one seemed to give a **** then when a ton, I think it was somewhere around 60-80 positions, moved from one base to another purely out of spite. It was a great day when Abbott got booted.

I believe Kaye was the 170 (CAL EWR) S-T at the time. The number of positions lost in EWR was well over 100 in just the 737 CA BES... going from over 500 to well under 400 before all was said and done. Some of those were due to the contraction that created 148 system wide furloughs, but most of it was flying being shifted from EWR to IAH. I didn't believe business decisions like that could be based on hurt feelings until I heard it directly from someone in management, who also said it was costing us millions per year in hotel rooms alone.

It sucks to see any base contracting because of the human cost to those living there, but IAH is apparently not where the money is now. I don't get it either, it's a large population center in a market we dominate, but unlike the move of flying out of EWR, this is not a punitive decision.

rp2pilot 06-09-2017 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by worstpilotever (Post 2376245)
Don't worry, those of us in California won't ask for any of the federal tax money that goes to Texas from California as long as you promise to keep the heat and humidity in Texas.

That's a bit of a myth .. it's essentially a break even situation.

" In January 2017, the California Legislative Analyst’s Office said by several measures California is, indeed, a donor state, but just barely. It receives $0.99 in federal expenditures per dollar of taxes paid"

DaBest 06-09-2017 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2376516)
You're taking credit for taxes paid by the top 1% of CA residents. You on the other hand get to deduct your CA state taxes from your federal tax burden, which is a subsidy. Let's not talk about poverty levels and social entitlements keeping a sizeable portion of the states population afloat.

"Texas is a "tax donor state"; in 2005, for every dollar Texans paid to the federal government in federal income taxes, the state got back about $0.94 in benefits.[167] To attract business, Texas has incentive programs worth $19 billion per year (2012); more than any other US state.[171][172]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas
;)

baseball 06-09-2017 05:12 PM

a Radio show just said Houston just edged out Chicago to the number 3 spot in population. Most of the normal websites don't show it yet, but this radio guy had a census type person on the show talking about population growth trends, demographics, and such.

Evidently some townships not formerly considered as a part of Houston are now as such. Conroe, Texas is north of IAH. Now the fastest growing city in America, in the fastest growing county (Montgomery). I am told Conroe is now considered a part of Houston for census purposes.

Probe 06-09-2017 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2376956)
a Radio show just said Houston just edged out Chicago to the number 3 spot in population. Most of the normal websites don't show it yet, but this radio guy had a census type person on the show talking about population growth trends, demographics, and such.

Evidently some townships not formerly considered as a part of Houston are now as such. Conroe, Texas is north of IAH. Now the fastest growing city in America, in the fastest growing county (Montgomery). I am told Conroe is now considered a part of Houston for census purposes.

The general definition of a "city" generally means a certain population density. The only true "big" city in the US is New York, with Chicago being second. Depending on how big you draw the rings, you can take a bunch of areas in the US and call them the second biggest city.

Houston is a big suburb. So are most of our "cities". Making the "rings" bigger for bragging rights really doesn't mean anything.

jsled 06-10-2017 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2375665)
Next round of Displacements out.

25 SFO 747 first officers
 20 IAH 787 captains
 25 IAH 787 first officers
 9 IAH 756 captains
 8 IAH 737 captains
 25 IAH 777 first officers

There will be no bumps. Just attrition. :D

Airhoss 06-10-2017 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2377113)
There will be no bumps. Just attrition. :D

Dang dude....

Why do you have to keep bringing up the things that we told them weren't true?

jsled 06-10-2017 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2377115)
Dang dude....

Why do you have to keep bringing up the things that we told them weren't true?

Idk. Seeing it written makes me LOL. I'm easily amused.

Airhoss 06-10-2017 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2377116)
Idk. Seeing it written makes me LOL. I'm easily amused.

Yeah me too...


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