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azdryheat 07-01-2017 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2388073)
I am not aware of any changes announced for 756 flying out of San Francisco so I'm not sure why you would correlate the 747 being retired with changes in the 756 fleet?




The 747 is currently flying 6 city pairs. All of those flights could be covered by any 777, 200 or 300. There would be a seat loss, but not a wholesale loss of coverage. The 300 has, if I remember correctly, only 8 seats less than the 747 and carries 30 pallets which is exactly the same as a 747. In fact, it was already happening on occasion that a 777 would replace a 747 on specific segments when one or more 747s went down for a mechanical. I believe there will be a significant increase in reliability overall, not a decrease. Plus I disagree with the sentiment that this management team is providing "inadequate resources". I believe they are finally making efficient use of our fleet which will hopefully translate to an improving bottom line for UCH.





According to the the fleet head honcho, there was never a plan to fly the -300 out of EWR. The rumor, as best I could tell, started with the EWR FAs because they got wind of the one route that was slated for a -300 that being the TLV. From there it became all the -300s. I asked while I was out at training and was told the fleet had no idea where the -300s were being deployed. I realize TK is not at the front of information, but I like to believe if the plan was to send all the -300s to EWR, that would be something they would have heard before the EWR line pilots.

What are the 8 city pairs? I believe the 787 is getting some of the 747 routes, and currently the 747 is only flying 6 routes: LHR, FRA, ICN, PEK, PVG, TPE. Also for flights over 10 hours the number I was told is 3 airframes per 10+ hour route. Hence 18 747s for 6 city pairs.





+1000

I remember when the order first came out they mentioned EWR.

Nov 1 pairs are:

EWR: TLV/NRT

SFO: FRA/HKG/NRT/PEK/SYD/TPE

So far this info has been correct. This is 6 week old info and it already was planning for the additional 777-300's. Same source says no A-350's, which isn't really a shock or even news.

El10 07-01-2017 01:34 PM

We replaced a fleet of 22 airplanes with 14 777-300s and 3 787s. Not only did we not cut any routes, we are adding LAX-SIN and EWR-EZE.

svergin 07-01-2017 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by El10 (Post 2388307)
We replaced a fleet of 22 airplanes with 14 777-300s and 3 787s. Not only did we not cut any routes, we are adding LAX-SIN and EWR-EZE.

Just because there were 22 airplanes, doesn't mean they were all being used. I remember in an SSC report that only 14-16 of those 747s were really needed to fly everything the fleet flew.

We don't staff based on # of planes. Its based on amount of flying. So we could go from 22 747s and only replace them with 18 777s (remember we just added 4 more) and 3 787s, for a total of 21 planes, but actually add flying, like LAX-SIN and EWR-EZE.

I don't think the current lack of bids have anything to do with losing flying. We will almost certainly fly more in summer of 2018 than this summer. Its just that the displacements are creating a training issue and TK is also undergoing construction, which is causing issues.

I think its going to be fine, with some potentially very large vacancy bids in the fall/winter.

89Pistons 07-06-2017 04:42 PM

Final out on the same day it closed?? Unheard of. Next displacement out soon.

MasterOfPuppets 07-07-2017 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2390579)
Final out on the same day it closed?? Unheard of. Next displacement out soon.

It just got posted. All the rest of the 747 pilots and all the rest of the IAH 787 pilots. Closes 7/27

Hopefully the final Displacement for a long time will take place in AUG to clean up the overstaffed categories. Then we can all move on from this massive reshuffling.

13n144e 07-07-2017 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by 89Pistons (Post 2390579)
Next displacement out soon.

Damn. Nailed that...

Monkeyfly 07-07-2017 09:54 AM

New seniority list out also.

Total pilots 12817.

Post-merger hires 2259 or 17.6%.

Grumble 07-07-2017 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 2390928)
New seniority list out also.

Total pilots 12817.

Post-merger hires 2259 or 17.6%.

From what Bill Kennedy told a recent new hire class, post merger new hires should make up close to 1/3 of the total list by end of next year.

F15andMD11 07-07-2017 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2390936)
From what Bill Kennedy told a recent new hire class, post merger new hires should make up close to 1/3 of the total list by end of next year.

Dang, that's an ambitious statement. Some rough math with today's numbers would mean an additional 2000 pilots. Not counting retirements.

cal73 07-07-2017 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 2390947)
Dang, that's an ambitious statement. Some rough math with today's numbers would mean an additional 2000 pilots. Not counting retirements.



I'm sure that won't happen.


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