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07-10-2017 | 03:39 PM
#111
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I'm calling BS. 99.9% of guys out there including me wouldn't know our own leadership in a line up, let alone other airline leadership. Never mind a gate agent.
07-10-2017 | 04:21 PM
#112
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07-10-2017 | 04:27 PM
#113
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07-10-2017 | 05:17 PM
#114
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07-10-2017 | 05:20 PM
#115
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Nobody acquired anybody. It was a merger. The two airlines merged to create one, which is why its called United Continental Holdings. If you looked at two pilots hired the same day, the CAL pilot might be a Captain and the United pilot might be an FO. That's why it wasn't just a longevity integration.
07-10-2017 | 05:33 PM
#116
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Ummm....that's a pretty meaningless average considering that ALPA merger policy significantly changed over the course of those mergers.
For example, the UAL/CAL merger which was the first significant merger under the current policy which is important considering the major revision to the current policy was to specifically include longevity.
Each merger is arbitrated on it's own merits and considering the three primary components of the current policy I'd suggest that a UAL/JB combination would be quite asymmetric on all three counts and certainly far more than UAL/CAL. YMMV.
For example, the UAL/CAL merger which was the first significant merger under the current policy which is important considering the major revision to the current policy was to specifically include longevity.
Each merger is arbitrated on it's own merits and considering the three primary components of the current policy I'd suggest that a UAL/JB combination would be quite asymmetric on all three counts and certainly far more than UAL/CAL. YMMV.
Our FO's make more $$$ than your CA's. We have a huge WB fleet we have been here a lot longer than most JB pilots. I can go on and on but it's a waist of time. UAL buying JB is just wishful thinking.
07-10-2017 | 05:40 PM
#117
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Virtually* all pilots ended up within a percentage or two on the final list compared to their pre-merger list. How that came to pass and the reasons for the end result can be found in several thousand posts on APC. The final award with the arbitrators explanation can also be found online in serval places.
(*Virtually because there were a few bands of outliers that did end up outside a few points.)
07-10-2017 | 06:43 PM
#118
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I would bet a lot of $$$ that there isn't one United Pilot with an application in at JetBlue...... I bet 40% of JetBlue pilots have their apps in at United. They are willing to come over and start on the bottom. That is where 90% of JetBlue pilots would be placed if UAL bought JetBlue. It wouldn't be a "merger". I fly with newhires that came from JetBlue and they are the ones who told me of all the guys wanting to leave.
Our FO's make more $$$ than your CA's. We have a huge WB fleet we have been here a lot longer than most JB pilots. I can go on and on but it's a waist of time. UAL buying JB is just wishful thinking.
Our FO's make more $$$ than your CA's. We have a huge WB fleet we have been here a lot longer than most JB pilots. I can go on and on but it's a waist of time. UAL buying JB is just wishful thinking.
Times change, I hope you don't think United will always be the top dog. But I do find your offer to slot in 10% of our pilot group to be very generous, thank you.
While there are plenty of guys that would like to go to United I would say your 40% number is just a little high.
One last thing it's not the JetBlue guys making this up and wishfully thinking about the joys of a merger without a cba. This has been coming from the United side.
07-10-2017 | 07:44 PM
#119
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My experience being a UA FO that hustles and does pretty well is that I am not even remotely close to pulling in what several of my JB capt friends pull in. As a matter of fact they make more than most of the narrowbody captains I fly with at UA.
07-10-2017 | 08:09 PM
#120
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While you and I and most everybody else wouldn't notice or care if OM or whoever was walking through the terminal, when he arrives on one of our flights, you can bet everybody in the station from the GM on down to the ramp crew will know there is a company VIP on board, and the flight would be given extra attention.
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