The extra jets don't make a difference. New routes and added block hours do. LAX-SIN and the seasonal SFO-AKL coming back will help but not enough unless the company just plans to eat the large overstaffing on the 787 West Coast.

As far as DCA 777 is concerned, even though the 787 is taking over four of their routes I think the 787 showing up on the East Coast is more about eventually replacing some of the East Coast 757 and 767 flying. The frames that were utilized on those four routes will be redistributed somewhere. Maybe out of DCA but B Models will be needed for SFO-PVG, winter SFO-HND, and SFO-LHR #2. But somewhere in all this some 756 flying will have to be replaced with other equipment or discontinued. They're pulling the frames from some domicile's flying to cover DEN 756. 756 block hours will have to decrease in one or two domiciles to accommodate.

Of the four planned 787 routes for DCA (CDG/LHR/PEK/GRU) only 2 come directly from the 777 (PEK and CDG). The other 2 come from the 767 (LHR#3 and GRU). The 787 has already been flying from IAD to CDG and LHR#3 this summer with LAX and SFO crews.

True true. My mistake. I was counting those because they were former 777 routes flown by DCA at the time there were last vacancies for DCA 777. I forgot about the 787 W's.

I'm fairly certain that Denver 756 will exist at the cost of LAX. There's a lot of HI-DEN flying in the LAX bid package, as well as DEN-EWR that doesn't make sense for LAX to fly when DEN 756 reopens.

hmmm
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure

F that. I'll watch my house go into foreclosure and go live under a bridge before I'll falk over my brothers. PERIOD. There ain't no excuse for being a scab. NONE.

You forgot to mention the ill-conceived "National Seniority List". That sits on top of the trash heap of bad ideas.

I always thought it was a great idea, as long as I started out as number one. The rest of you just politely fall in line, please..............

That is completely incorrect. You know what you'll do. Pins and stickers aside.

f what? that big union guys put on the nose glasses and flew in May of '85? good. f that. because they did.
and airhoss. whatever. history has shown that some pilots follow their own self interests- notwithstanding all their prior grandstanding. i'd peg some blowhards on this forum as the first to run to the airport for the wb captain upgrades should we ever go out on strike again. and they will really explode - now that i've said it...