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Final award is out.
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
(Post 2400704)
Final award is out.
Can someone provide results (or potential ramifications) for we poolies? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by AUBBIE99
(Post 2400763)
Can someone provide results (or potential ramifications) for we poolies? Thanks.
It's shuffling the deck in the top half of the seniority list. |
Originally Posted by AUBBIE99
(Post 2400763)
Can someone provide results (or potential ramifications) for we poolies? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by AUBBIE99
(Post 2400763)
Can someone provide results (or potential ramifications) for we poolies? Thanks.
SFO 787 CA +52/28% increase LAX 787 CA +23/25% increase IAH 777 CA +28/35% increase IAH 756 CA +14/14% increase SFO 787 FO +44/13% increase IAH 777 FO +35/18% increase I think the next and hopefully final displacement will look something like this: DCA 777 CA should be the junior WB after the displacement. SFO 787 CA -50 back to 2200 (only 10 of those can hold WB CA) LAX 787 CA -8 back to 2200 (5 can hold WB CA) They would need to bump back to 2200 to keep everyone in SFO from bumping down to LAX. IAH 777 CA -30 (all can hold WB CA) IAH 756 CA -25 SFO 787 FO -30 (all can hold WB FO) IAH 777 FO -40 back to about 7800 (only 5 can hold can hold CA in IAH) The seniority list is starting to fall back into its natural order and the seniority in seats and bases is starting to level out. So we should only see 1 more displacement unless DCA 777 needs to be lowered or they close the LAX 777 base. The movement at United will still be upward as the biggest retirement base at the airline is EWR and no one has displaced there. Not as many people took the 777 in SFO in either seat there will be bids there. Not enough people bid into DCA 787 so there will be bids there. ORD didn't see any people come in so there will be bids there. While people did bid NB CA there is not enough to cover next summer so there will be bids there. The training pipeline is going to be jam packed but no one is going to right seat in a narrow body so that is where the poolies come in. Good luck and don't stress the displacements as a new hire. |
Thanks for the feedback gents. Great insight. Cheers.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
(Post 2400791)
It means nothing for poolies however there will be atleast 1 more displacement. Heres a quick look at the numbers.
SFO 787 CA +52/28% increase LAX 787 CA +23/25% increase IAH 777 CA +28/35% increase IAH 756 CA +14/14% increase SFO 787 FO +44/13% increase IAH 777 FO +35/18% increase I think the next and hopefully final displacement will look something like this: DCA 777 CA should be the junior WB after the displacement. SFO 787 CA -50 back to 2200 (only 10 of those can hold WB CA) LAX 787 CA -8 back to 2200 (5 can hold WB CA) They would need to bump back to 2200 to keep everyone in SFO from bumping down to LAX. IAH 777 CA -30 (all can hold WB CA) IAH 756 CA -25 SFO 787 FO -30 (all can hold WB FO) IAH 777 FO -40 back to about 7800 (only 5 can hold can hold CA in IAH) The seniority list is starting to fall back into its natural order and the seniority in seats and bases is starting to level out. So we should only see 1 more displacement unless DCA 777 needs to be lowered or they close the LAX 777 base. The movement at United will still be upward as the biggest retirement base at the airline is EWR and no one has displaced there. Not as many people took the 777 in SFO in either seat there will be bids there. Not enough people bid into DCA 787 so there will be bids there. ORD didn't see any people come in so there will be bids there. While people did bid NB CA there is not enough to cover next summer so there will be bids there. The training pipeline is going to be jam packed but no one is going to right seat in a narrow body so that is where the poolies come in. Good luck and don't stress the displacements as a new hire. Also. Right now the IAH 777 FO is staffed at the max of 197. People on leave don't count. So we just added 35. Why would they displace 40?? Why wouldn't they just displace 35 to bring them back to the max of 197? I haven't looked at all other bases but my question would apply there too. |
Originally Posted by IHateYou
(Post 2400817)
Is this just your WAG? Or do you have some insider info?
Also. Right now the IAH 777 FO is staffed at the max of 197. People on leave don't count. So we just added 35. Why would they displace 40?? Why wouldn't they just displace 35 to bring them back to the max of 197? I haven't looked at all other bases but my question would apply there too. Looking at the IAH 777 FO RSV list, of the names I can see, no one has broke guarantee and most haven't even broke 20 hours. to me that says overstaffed.....so I figure all 35 that came in will bump 35 out plus a couple. SFO 787 FO can probably run ok and a bit fat at 370. After this displacement we will be at 397. IAH 756 CA is already over staffed so all out plus some and it will most likely take a hit when DEN 756 opens. IAH 777 CA looks about right so 30 in 30 out maybe a few less due to retirements. SFO 787 CA is so fat right now there are CAs going to landings class. I overheard a CA who was on his second trip since June of last year. and the other trip was an LAX repo DH back. SO 52 in 50 out should cover retirements and attrition until fall of 2018. LAX 787 CA will see as many displacements as they need to match the seniority of SFO so there is not a flood of pilots into the category. |
Approximate numbers in award format
SFO 777
CA - 21 FO -52 SFO 787 CA - 50 FO - 44 SFO 756 CA - 6 FO - 1 SFO 737 CA - 9 SFO 320 CA - 1 ----------- LAX 777 CA-1 FO-5 LAX 787 CA-23 FO-21 LAX 737 CA-2 LAX 320 CA-2 ------------ IAH 777 CA-29 FO-33 IAH 756 CA-14 FO-1 IAH 320 CA-1 ------------ DEN 737 CA-5 DEN 320 CA-3 ------------ GUM 737 CA-3 ------------- DCA 777 CA-4 FO-1 DCA 787 CA-3 FO-5 DCA 756 CA-4 ---------- EWR 777 CA-1 FO-2 EWR 756 CA-2 ---------- ORD 777 CA-1 FO-1 ORD 756 CA-1 (Numbers include paper bids, SUP/LTA) |
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