None of us that are junior enough to have to fly it can afford California...

 

24 spots for the recalls coming back on Nov 13th.

 

Except for the fact that recalls aren't coming back until Feb or March.

 

From Flying Together

Furlough Recal REDOC
November 13

 

From Bill Kennedy last week: "The next opportunity for furloughed pilots to return is in February. I am accepting preference for a February 5th REDOC class and am putting guys on that class roster but I am also telling them that the Feb 5th class may very well get moved into March."

 

Disregard the following. You edited your post before I replied.

Did Bill tell you it's the next class you're senior enough to get in, the next class that's being held, or the next class you'd be able to get with a notification of desire to return as of last week?

 

Option 3. Good point.
Since it wasn't stated, it is possible that the November class exists, but is full up.

Thanks.

 

I think everyone looking at hiring info needs to take a deep breath. This is my opinion and my opinion only but here it goes......

United made a major mistake this summer and now has a margin problem for the next few months. They rolled out Basic Economy very aggressively which means we sold more lower end tickets while sending customers who shop around to American and Delta who offer similar price but a standard economy product. I think this mangment team was very greatful for the hurricane because that takes some of the sting out of the mistake. They claim we lost ~300m due to the Hurricane but my guess is they inflated that number by 75-100m to help make basic economy look like it has less of an impact. The other things you can do to help this look better while you wait for your mistake to unwind itself is hold off on high cost non capex. If we take training and push it to the 2nd quarter which we just did then you take out some of the head wind from Basic economy being rolled out too aggressively. That is what I think they are doing. I also think they expect a large number of returnees. Next we have a need for ~700 pilots. ~350 retirements and 20 growth airplanes. If you get 250 pilots returning plus 400 new hires you are basically there. That my guess.

Good luck to everyone looking forward to a class date. I hope you gt here sooner rather then later

 

Same or cheaper cost of living than NY/NJ/PA with the added benefit of not being a dump, better weather and nice people.

 

Same cost of living as PA? Dude, that California Sunshine is giving you heat stroke. I left California a few years ago after living in state 40+ years. Housing costs in Sacramento, Hayward, Fairfield, Vacaville, Livermore are about double the cost of houses in PA. In California, I was paying around 33 cents / KWHour from PGE for electricity .. in PA, it's 7 cents / KWHour. Moving to PA my state income taxes went down by $2000/month -- that's the equivalent of a new Mercedes every 3 years. What are you paying to register your car in CA (we pay $35/year in PA)? What are you paying for gas per gallon? Even the cost of food is higher in CA. Seriously, EVERY aspect of life in California costs significantly more, you just don't realize it till you escape. It's a lovely state, I agree on that, but don't kid yourself into thinking that it's an affordable place to live.