awax

As long as they only have 50 seats, or in limited cases, 76 seats, then I don't care. It doesn't seem like the most efficient way to operate that jet though.

If it's to be operated as designed, that is with about 100 seats, it contractually can't go to the regionals.

Section 6 is coming and never underestimate the stupidity of s crowd. If we relent on scope, it'll be the start of another decades long decline.

RSRVWINDSURFR

You do realize if UAL orders some of these it opens the door for more outsourced 76 seaters right? Getting these would be a lose/lose IMHO.

David Puddy

3...2...1. I'll spare you the normal sales pitch. UAL is considered too close to Boeing, so, I imagine Kirby won't order the CSeries even though it makes TREMENDOUS sense to provide an aircraft type that:

1. Provides the best route flexibility of any aircraft in its class
2. Provides the best passenger ergonomics of any aircraft in its class
3. Is a clean-sheet design that provides unmatched efficiency in its class with the GTFs and improved aerodynamics - the E2 is an E190 with new engines, a few extra rows and a revamped wing - wow!!!!

I doubt anyone pays list price anymore - especially for a volume order. If UAL were to order the CSeries, Delta and Air Canada will be flying CSeries versions and any potential operational kinks would be worked out by then.

Let's hope UAL orders the E2 (to also appease Boeing who is very nervous about a potential bigger CS500 version from Bombardier) and you guys can enjoy flying regional routes in that tight cockpit with those annoying ram horns for the next 2-3 decades. Have fun!

Half wing

If we bought the cs 100/300 at a 1:1 ratio the blended rate would be about the same as Delta's 717 rate. The Captain CS100/300 blended rate is also about the same as our wide body FO rate. I agree though, let's get the rate up for these in the next contract. At least the CS300 pays what a 319 does. Makes sense because they are about the same size.

trip

They've already done that. Quebec owns 49.5% of the program and they are now actively shopping for another investor and the Chinese state owned COMAC are the most likely suiters.
It's a welfare program at this point.

82spukram

This where Boeing is dropping the ball. They need a 737 replacement. Instead of developing one just buy it! Just buy Bombardier and take the Cs100/300 and make a 500,700,900, 900ER (it's going to need a tail wheel!)...,,and then make a Max10,11,12 and so on.

Grumble

$1000/hr, 100hr guarantee.... A single inch of scope relief would be an absolute no from me. (I'm sure some here would sell out their own kids for a few more dollars)

What good are payrates without a job?

flightmedic01

Heard the Max 11 will require a tail wheel endorsement! 🙄🙄

full of luv

Or maybe Mgmt leaks it itself to apply a bit more pressure on Boeing/Airbus to sharpen their pencils for a deal.

757Driver

Not really but when Deltas guys are making $40/hour more than we are flying the exact same aircraft, they suck. The 737 order would have been just fine and paid us at, gasp, industry average rates.