All we so now is SC in SFO there is no LSR it's like big foot. Tomorrow 5 of us last day. We all might have been able to go home tonight and sit LSR at home. Thanks for playing 0200SC 0300SC 0500SC 0700SC all for us 1 day silo pilots. No soup for you. Oh let us not forget they have 07F 10SC 14SC and 18SC for tomorrow.

Let's all stop pretending LSR even happens. Every pilot in SFO is on SC.

 

With sec 6 here, it might be worth while to tell negotiating comm how we feel about this. Concidering how long this has not followed the contract, it might be better to put it back.

 

What airplane?

 

737

 

Quick question regarding vacancies and new hires -- do unfilled vacancies stack with regard to new hire slots?

In other words, for a given BES, if there's 10 unfilled last month, 10 unfilled this month, and 10 unfilled next month, does that translate to 30 new hire slots? Or is it only 10?

I'm just trying to get a sense of whether certain BESes are growing or shrinking with each successive bid. The staffing guy also said that eventually unfilleds need to be "refreshed". Is there are a hard and fast expiration date on them, or is it just kind of fuzzy math that's completely internal to the company?

 

You asked several questions, but it's really all of those things so realistically there's never a hard-and-fast number. However, reading both the monthly ALPA SSC (System Schedule Committee) Report and the company Manpower Planning Updates should provide some guidance for planned growth or shrinkage.

But specifically to your questions:

- Vacancies DO expire. I'm too lazy to look up the contract reference but that's a good thing as it forces the company to issue another bid, if required, and thus provide current pilots first crack.

- The company does NOT have to fill vacancies (the fuzzy math part) with new-hires as the company has complete autonomy for hiring. For example, 80 cumulative non-expired vacancies could result in 80 new hires, zero new hires, or anything in between. BUT with the caveat that the company can only assign new-hires slots where vacancies exist.

Clear as mud?

 

I was thinking it would be better if the vacancy didn't expire. It would highlight the shortage. If we need 30 pilots in base X, and it doesn't get filled, don't we still need those pilots?

 

The vacancy is important for people on property because I have worked at ALPA shops and non ALPA before that would place newhires into vacancies---BEFORE--- putting them out for bid, thus locking certain pilots into bases and fleet types they didn't want...

 

Bids closed good luck everyone

 

Guesses for junior Captain??

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