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PA Slammer 10-17-2017 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2448696)
I think he was referring to those in the top half of the seniority list. There are numerous reasons not to take a narrow body Captain bid. Family, quality of life, money, seniority, sanity are a few that come to mind.

I understand that. And I agree about the QOL reasons you stated above. My point was why would he think that NOW is the time. Is it the size of this vacancy and the chance that there will be 3-4 more?

Floyd 10-17-2017 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by PA Slammer (Post 2448716)
I understand that. And I agree about the QOL reasons you stated above. My point was why would he think that NOW is the time. Is it the size of this vacancy and the chance that there will be 3-4 more?

A large chunk of pilots hired between 90-97 have fairly comfortable seniority as a narrow body Captain since recent bids have gone junior.

I would also guess that their age is playing a factor in the decision as retirement looms in the next decade. In the same thought, many have remained an FO for family commitments. The empty nest provides a lot of freedom.

PA Slammer 10-17-2017 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Floyd (Post 2448720)
A large chunk of pilots hired between 90-97 have fairly comfortable seniority as a narrow body Captain since recent bids have gone junior.

I would also guess that their age is playing a factor in the decision as retirement looms in the next decade. In the same thought, many have remained an FO for family commitments. The empty nest provides a lot of freedom.

Got it. Thanks for the explanation. I've been wondering about this. How many are actually going to do it though. Seems that there is quite an allure towards WB FO instead. Having the extra time off and a more laid back day turns into crack when compared to the alternative of working another couple days every month and multiple turns a day with minimum layover times. It'll be interesting what things look like after these bids.

jsled 10-17-2017 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by DG1000 (Post 2448682)
Name the last ALPA strike.

No googling....

Spirit? ................

MasterOfPuppets 10-17-2017 09:18 AM

First snap shot out

fanaticalflyer 10-17-2017 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2448902)
First snap shot out

Yup. And you can already see it's at 9000 except for SFO airbus CAP, which won't last. First bid is always so junior, so by final bid, everything will be sub 9000 for CAP and most likely closer to 8500.

PA Slammer 10-17-2017 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 2449077)
Yup. And you can already see it's at 9000 except for SFO airbus CAP, which won't last. First bid is always so junior, so by final bid, everything will be sub 9000 for CAP and most likely closer to 8500.

Yeah, a few were saying Cap would go junior. I didn't think it would...

tkt96 10-17-2017 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 2449077)
Yup. And you can already see it's at 9000 except for SFO airbus CAP, which won't last. First bid is always so junior, so by final bid, everything will be sub 9000 for CAP and most likely closer to 8500.

Are you saying the next 3 or 4 bids before summer 18 that were mentioned will go senior to 9000? Or are you saying the snapshots on this first bid will go more senior...like they always do.

fanaticalflyer 10-17-2017 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by tkt96 (Post 2449084)
Are you saying the next 3 or 4 bids before summer 18 that were mentioned will go senior to 9000? Or are you saying the snapshots on this first bid will go more senior...like they always do.

This particular bid definitely sub 9000. Heck you see many already sub 8500. I think the later bids will be around 9000 and less for all bases and optimistically in SFO go to 9500 tops, but that's a stretch too. But for "Master of Puppets" to think Airbus to 10500, is smoking crack.

Sniper66 10-17-2017 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 2449089)
This particular bid definitely sub 9000. Heck you see many already sub 8500. I think the later bids will be around 9000 and less for all bases and optimistically in SFO go to 9500 tops, but that's a stretch too. But for "Master of Puppets" to think Airbus to 10500, is smoking crack.





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