BIG IF but if UAL announces 30-40 more used 319/320 tomorrow on top of what is already coming in 2018
10 - 737 max
17 - 319 from china
4 - 787 9
3 - 787 10
4 - 777 3

57-67 narrowbody
11 widebody

Still thinking 9000 (9500 in sfo) is the magic number for narrowbody CA IF we announce those 30-40 more planes?

Do you have any reason why the the MD went so junior in ATL?!!!

I'll tell you directly from my Delta buds. The MD starts early and has super long duty days with 4 or more legs. Noncommutable and it's a dinosaur of an airplane. This is much different than our UAL NB's. Proofs in the pudding bud. Just look at how senior these CAP slots are going for and will be by end of this vacancy. Not trying to be pessimistic, just realistic. To throw out a DAL mad dog CAP seniority was asinine.

Uh...
Our narrow bodies start super early, have long duty days, and are non commutable on both ends. But they sure are shiny jets and they feed us real nice.

I have no reason to argue with you, so ill just bookmark this page.

I stated it could drop to 10,500 IF we get 30-40 airbuses next year and that the 10,500 number would be hit after the final bid for summer.

Well see what happens but this time last year (16-11V) CA on the 737 in SFO went 9600. 900 numbers at an airline this big is not unquestionable, especially if we grow by 60-70 airframes in a 12 month period.

And they are sick of waiting until 2300L on the 17th to find out next months schedule

Weren’t the FO lines due a few days ago?

"Access to Bid Groups is temporarily disabled while awards for the remaining bases are being processed. Access will be restored by 10/18 00:01 CT."

Quote from PBS website. So anything before that time is a little present lol.

But 9600 will still generally be at least a 10yr guy/girl. 9500 is about a 2007 CAL and a friggin 99 UAL. Thats 9.5 yrs longer to upgrade that DAL. At UA 10yrs is considered a "new guy" and we talk about how jr that is.

No. I get your point. Problem with that 9600 of last year, was it occurred before the big 747 bumps out of SFO. That has made everything really senior. Heck, wide body out of LAX went down to 9700 beforehand. Now you have to be sub 7000 to get it. Too many guys are looking at the Junior Man and thinking that's the reference point, and on the west coast, that no longer applies. Too many guys sub 9000 struggling to get CAP. Now that there are openings coming up, you'll have some senior FO's in the 3000-5000 range finally bidding to the left seat knowing they'll have junior guys in the 7000-9000 range coming under them. First step is to have that announcement of the new airbii or it's moot.

Nah, the 74 displacements and the lull in movement made things more senior but not for that long. Someone with a 10,000 or higher seniority number will be a Captain by summer of 18.