Rumor: UA looking to add 60 RJs
10-30-2017, 03:51 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by aa73
Guys & gals,
Kirby is a one trick pony... he tried to pull the same scope crap on us (AA). He floated it as a "trial balloon" during JCBA talks knowing full well it would fail. Then when the pilot group got all spun up and focused entirely on telling him to shove it, he pulled back and quietly slipped in other concessions banking on the fact that we'd be relieved that "at least Scope is off the table, now we can work with him."
Classic bait & switch. Don't budge an inch, keep your guard up and hold the line!
Kirby is a one trick pony... he tried to pull the same scope crap on us (AA). He floated it as a "trial balloon" during JCBA talks knowing full well it would fail. Then when the pilot group got all spun up and focused entirely on telling him to shove it, he pulled back and quietly slipped in other concessions banking on the fact that we'd be relieved that "at least Scope is off the table, now we can work with him."
Classic bait & switch. Don't budge an inch, keep your guard up and hold the line!
+1,000,000
Scope and talk about scope are simply a distraction:
First a quote from the Oct. 10th MEC update:
The polling results make it clear that pilot support for the current MEC and LEC leadership and Negotiating team is at a historical high as we approach opening negotiations for the UPA. Polling data also shows high levels of cohesion across the pilot group regarding direction and priorities for the next contract.
Good Morning Joe-
Thanks for the note and your support... They don’t make mistakes by casually dropping info like that. They are trying to soften up a segment of our group. I had told them that it’s not up for discussion previously. It’s something they really want, much in the way I want a pony.
Case in point….For several years now, I’ve tried to “convince” my wife that we need a convertible Bentley. I’ve told her how good it would look parked in the driveway, how it would increase our property value, how reliable they are and how, in the grand scheme of life, we’ll save money in the long run …..and that I really just want one… instead of my 20 year old Volvo.
Every time she answers with a smile, “That’s nice, dear.”
“That’s nice, dear” is exactly what I told the Company.
There are many people both outside, and internally who wish to do us harm. However, rest assured, no one in my administration will entertain this type of discussion.
Regards,
Todd
Thanks for the note and your support... They don’t make mistakes by casually dropping info like that. They are trying to soften up a segment of our group. I had told them that it’s not up for discussion previously. It’s something they really want, much in the way I want a pony.
Case in point….For several years now, I’ve tried to “convince” my wife that we need a convertible Bentley. I’ve told her how good it would look parked in the driveway, how it would increase our property value, how reliable they are and how, in the grand scheme of life, we’ll save money in the long run …..and that I really just want one… instead of my 20 year old Volvo.
Every time she answers with a smile, “That’s nice, dear.”
“That’s nice, dear” is exactly what I told the Company.
There are many people both outside, and internally who wish to do us harm. However, rest assured, no one in my administration will entertain this type of discussion.
Regards,
Todd
10-30-2017, 05:58 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by Incontinentius
LOLOL
Remember 'Ted Beer' ? Think it was Avolar. Morons.
Remember 'Ted Beer' ? Think it was Avolar. Morons.
Yep after less than 10 posts, other writers will ignore you.
10-31-2017, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
Sunvox, probably too late now but you should delete your last post. You should know better.
The "secret squirrel" crap is ridiculous. Light is the best disinfectant. Kirby's RJ talk is a head fake, and that is important for people to know and understand, and what I am attempting to inculcate. When I say such no one has cause to think twice. When the MEC says it, folks should pay attention, but somehow the message is not getting out.
What needs to be deleted is all the public handwringing over scope. It is proof for management types that a little one liner can unsettle the masses.
10-31-2017, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
Nothing in that post is not already in the public domain. You can find the same information in public MEC updates.
This "secret squirrel" crap is ridiculous. Light is the best disinfectant. Kirby's RJ talk is a head fake, and that is important for people to know and understand, and inculcate.
This "secret squirrel" crap is ridiculous. Light is the best disinfectant. Kirby's RJ talk is a head fake, and that is important for people to know and understand, and inculcate.
Folks here have already spoke about the RJ crap possibly being a head fake. Some of us had a convo last week about Kirby really wanting some relaxation of reserve rules.
I think your copying and pasting his response was more you you trying to let everyone know that you've had a personal two way comm with the Chair.
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