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Hypothetically: the company hears your plaint and says, starting in March, they'll be published no later than 0000 on the 17th instead of the 18th. March comes around, there will the same guys saying, "it's 2250 on the 16th and the lines aren't out yet, why can't they get them out early." The next month, the company says they'll publish them no later than 0000 on the 16th. April comes around, the same guys are saying, "it's 2250 on the 15th and the lines aren't out yet."
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i suppose they could put out the awards at 0300LBT when we are asleep, but PBS is like sex, i like to go to sleep after getting screwed
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The same people would be complaining still, but they'd say, "bidding closed 1 hour ago and I still don't have my line. This place S#$#S."
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I do not like PBS, but I wouldn’t use SWA as an example of the gold standard of IT-just ask anyone that works there-it’s worse than we are. (I’m not just talking about bidding).
I’d be happy to close bidding a week earlier if we could get our schedule a week earlier.
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[QUOTE=terminal;2506069]But they also do line bidding which really doesn’t have he same computing requirements as PBS. [QUOTE]
Keep It Simple Sam.
Think of all the money SWA is saving on computers.....
PBS is a concession. If SWA pilots were to concede and give in to management, they would need a 30 % pay raise to nibble on the cheese.
The CAL and UAL pilots, with one post merger contract and one extension have yet to be properly reimbursed for their concessions, the concession that keeps on giving. No manpower staffing minimums, minimum ALPA input, and no ALPA control. It's a concession because it allows the company to operate unfettered, reduce staffing, and it forces pilots to give up control, and in the end, it marginalizes and abrogates your seniority.
Seniority used to mean allot...That was before PBS. Now, not so much.
Keep It Simple Sam.
Think of all the money SWA is saving on computers.....
PBS is a concession. If SWA pilots were to concede and give in to management, they would need a 30 % pay raise to nibble on the cheese.
The CAL and UAL pilots, with one post merger contract and one extension have yet to be properly reimbursed for their concessions, the concession that keeps on giving. No manpower staffing minimums, minimum ALPA input, and no ALPA control. It's a concession because it allows the company to operate unfettered, reduce staffing, and it forces pilots to give up control, and in the end, it marginalizes and abrogates your seniority.
Seniority used to mean allot...That was before PBS. Now, not so much.
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[QUOTE=baseball;2506253][QUOTE=terminal;2506069]But they also do line bidding which really doesn’t have he same computing requirements as PBS.
Keep It Simple Sam.
Think of all the money SWA is saving on computers.....
PBS is a concession. If SWA pilots were to concede and give in to management, they would need a 30 % pay raise to nibble on the cheese.
The CAL and UAL pilots, with one post merger contract and one extension have yet to be properly reimbursed for their concessions, the concession that keeps on giving. No manpower staffing minimums, minimum ALPA input, and no ALPA control. It's a concession because it allows the company to operate unfettered, reduce staffing, and it forces pilots to give up control, and in the end, it marginalizes and abrogates your seniority.
Seniority used to mean allot...That was before PBS. Now, not so much.
I’m not arguing PBS vs Line Select-it IS a concession-and I’d much rather have line bidding with Swa vacation rules. I was merely talking about the speed at which the bids are processed.
Keep It Simple Sam.
Think of all the money SWA is saving on computers.....
PBS is a concession. If SWA pilots were to concede and give in to management, they would need a 30 % pay raise to nibble on the cheese.
The CAL and UAL pilots, with one post merger contract and one extension have yet to be properly reimbursed for their concessions, the concession that keeps on giving. No manpower staffing minimums, minimum ALPA input, and no ALPA control. It's a concession because it allows the company to operate unfettered, reduce staffing, and it forces pilots to give up control, and in the end, it marginalizes and abrogates your seniority.
Seniority used to mean allot...That was before PBS. Now, not so much.
Last edited by terminal; 01-18-2018 at 07:29 PM.
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Thank you!!
It’s not a real problem at UAL.
Being a first officer is a choice. Lol.
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[QUOTE=baseball;2506253][QUOTE=terminal;2506069]But they also do line bidding which really doesn’t have he same computing requirements as PBS.
Keep It Simple Sam.
Think of all the money SWA is saving on computers.....
PBS is a concession. If SWA pilots were to concede and give in to management, they would need a 30 % pay raise to nibble on the cheese.
The CAL and UAL pilots, with one post merger contract and one extension have yet to be properly reimbursed for their concessions, the concession that keeps on giving. No manpower staffing minimums, minimum ALPA input, and no ALPA control. It's a concession because it allows the company to operate unfettered, reduce staffing, and it forces pilots to give up control, and in the end, it marginalizes and abrogates your seniority.
Seniority used to mean allot...That was before PBS. Now, not so much.
PBS isn't so much a problem in and of itself. Global solution is. There are PBS systems that exist that do not abrogate seniority and are much more user friendly.
I get your point about staffing but I would hate to go back to bidding on prebuilt lines.
Keep It Simple Sam.
Think of all the money SWA is saving on computers.....
PBS is a concession. If SWA pilots were to concede and give in to management, they would need a 30 % pay raise to nibble on the cheese.
The CAL and UAL pilots, with one post merger contract and one extension have yet to be properly reimbursed for their concessions, the concession that keeps on giving. No manpower staffing minimums, minimum ALPA input, and no ALPA control. It's a concession because it allows the company to operate unfettered, reduce staffing, and it forces pilots to give up control, and in the end, it marginalizes and abrogates your seniority.
Seniority used to mean allot...That was before PBS. Now, not so much.
I get your point about staffing but I would hate to go back to bidding on prebuilt lines.
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