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Old 10-09-2019 | 04:55 PM
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I assume RHA and HRA are the same thing?
i'm on YBR and I have $1,000 in my RHA, pardon my lack of research (i didn't even know this existed). What are the restrictions on spending this money, can I spend it now or is there an age limit...etc.? I don't see anywhere where it describes how to set up and account with whatever vendor they use to get a debit card or whatever to be able to spend money from this account.
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Old 10-09-2019 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
I assume RHA and HRA are the same thing? i'm on YBR and I have $1,000 in my RHA, pardon my lack of research (i didn't even know this existed). What are the restrictions on spending this money, can I spend it now or is there an age limit...etc.? I don't see anywhere where it describes how to set up and account with whatever vendor they use to get a debit card or whatever to be able to spend money from this account.
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Are you trolling? Hard to believe a pilot at UAL with 1000 hrs here has never read his contract.

By the off chance you haven’t bothered to, it’s 24-G
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Old 10-09-2019 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Are you trolling? Hard to believe a pilot at UAL with 1000 hrs here has never read his contract.

By the off chance you haven’t bothered to, it’s 24-G
haha no, i am not trolling. I knew about the 16% B fund, but not the HRA. And now that I know it's not the same, i didn't know about the RHA either! Unfortunately, I am intimately familiar with the reserve gouge though
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Old 10-09-2019 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
I assume RHA and HRA are the same thing?
i'm on YBR and I have $1,000 in my RHA, pardon my lack of research (i didn't even know this existed). What are the restrictions on spending this money, can I spend it now or is there an age limit...etc.? I don't see anywhere where it describes how to set up and account with whatever vendor they use to get a debit card or whatever to be able to spend money from this account.
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RHA and HRA are not the same. RHA can’t be spent until you’re not employed at UAL anymore, by any means.
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Old 10-09-2019 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Are you trolling? Hard to believe a pilot at UAL with 1000 hrs here has never read his contract.

By the off chance you haven’t bothered to, it’s 24-G
Did you know about this $4,800 cap on the HRA nonsense that the company is slipping in there in the dead of night?
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Old 10-09-2019 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
haha no, i am not trolling. I knew about the 16% B fund, but not the RHA. Unfortunately, I am intimately familiar with the reserve gouge though
Ok sorry. Just surprised. Maybe on those too frequent short calls take some time to read cover to cover. If you don’t know it you get bit. (just like reserve rules and scheduling)
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Old 10-09-2019 | 05:43 PM
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Do most people wait until that salary threshold when the company spillage starts to open and/or contribute to an HRA? Or do they contribute to the HRA early in their careers even while they're not getting any company money added in? All i've been doing so far is maxing out my 401k early and doing a "backdoor roth conversion" (thanks to whichever CA told me about that!)

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Old 10-10-2019 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by grahamlax
Do most people wait until that salary threshold when the company spillage starts to open and/or contribute to an HRA? Or do they contribute to the HRA early in their careers even while they're not getting any company money added in? All i've been doing so far is maxing out my 401k early and doing a "backdoor roth conversion" (thanks to whichever CA told me about that!)
I think you are muddling acronyms.
HRA=Health Reimbursement Account, formerly HSA "Health Savings Account" is used only with a High Deductible High Premium Health Plan to pay current medical expenses. You contribute pre-tax dollars and the company contributes $1500 in "seed money" annually. It's different from the HCFSA - "Flex Spending" Account in what it can be used for and that the HCFSA monies must be used on an annual basis i.e "use or lose" whereas the HRA is NOT, it accumulates year over year.

RHA=Retiree Health Account, UA's name for the VEBA in section 403 as discussed above. This is where your $1 per flight hour, any and all retirement contributions over the IRS limit and forfeited vacation goes.

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Old 10-10-2019 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
RHA and HRA are not the same. RHA can’t be spent until you’re not employed at UAL anymore, by any means.
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RHA normally cannot be used until retired, however if a person on LTD is deemed permanently disabled, they can use the funds.

Permanently disabled does not preclude an individual from returning to work

Just means that a pilot has been disabled for two years or has a condition that is reasonably expected to be permanent

Permanently disabled designation triggers certain contractual provisions
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Old 10-10-2019 | 11:30 AM
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Holy cow, I thought I had the 16% 401k thing figured out, I have to do some studying! I assume the source document for this is the UAP contract?
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