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Old 10-08-2019 | 01:25 PM
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So I'm tracking the 16% that goes into 401K, can your PS check go in there also? And when you reach the cap (believe it's $56,000 total in 2019), where does it go?
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Old 10-08-2019 | 02:49 PM
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So I'm tracking the 16% that goes into 401K, can your PS check go in there also? And when you reach the cap (believe it's $56,000 total in 2019), where does it go?
It goes into RHP.
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Old 10-08-2019 | 02:51 PM
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When u max out it goes into rha
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Old 10-08-2019 | 04:46 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought only the company contribution could overflow into the RHA. Once a pilot reaches his individual max he can continue to push funds POST tax into the combined bucket. Once that bucket is full, only company money can flow into the RHA.

Said another way, a pilot maxing out early and then putting post-tax dollars into the combined bucket forces company money to flow into the RHA sooner in the year. Sorry if this ****es any RJ drivers off.
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Old 10-08-2019 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought only the company contribution could overflow into the RHA. Once a pilot reaches his individual max he can continue to push funds POST tax into the combined bucket. Once that bucket is full, only company money can flow into the RHA.

Said another way, a pilot maxing out early and then putting post-tax dollars into the combined bucket forces company money to flow into the RHA sooner in the year. Sorry if this ****es any RJ drivers off.
You are correct...if you want to maximize the amount of company spillage into the RHA, you must front load your contribution early in the process. If over age 50, you need to get your full $25k in before the combined contribution hits the $64k limit for the year. If the combined contribution hits $64K, your money will stop being deposited. The company contribution then spills into the RHA until the company contribution hits the $44.8k limit (16% of 280k).

If I mis-stated any of this, I apologize. Andy is a great resource to talk to about this. I learned much of this from stuff he has posted over the years. Hes a bus cappy on west coast.
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Old 10-08-2019 | 05:25 PM
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OK I see, so how does the RHA work? If a pilot doesn’t want the excess to go into that account can he just have it deposited as pay? What’s the advantage with an RHA?
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Old 10-08-2019 | 05:36 PM
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OK I see, so how does the RHA work? If a pilot doesn’t want the excess to go into that account can he just have it deposited as pay? What’s the advantage with an RHA?
Its sort of like a savings account to help pay for medical expenses later in life. Excess funds cant be paid out...this aint Delta.
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Old 10-08-2019 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
Its sort of like a savings account to help pay for medical expenses later in life. Excess funds cant be paid out...this aint Delta.
Haha, thanks fellas.
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Old 10-08-2019 | 06:28 PM
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The most important aspect of the RHA is that you are using pre-tax dollars upfront to fund it and they become ZERO tax dollars later on when you use the money. Plus, as currently written the rules are quite lax with regard to what you use the funds for. Knee replacement? Use a Dr in Miami and you can buy tickets and hotels for the surgery. With, tax-free money.

Unless one already has a ton of money set aside, it's a no brainer. I think that ALPA's suggestion is for pilots to shoot for a $200K RHA at retirement, per couple. And when you factor in maxing out your 401 contributions early in the calendar year and then adding post-tax dollars to your retirement lump. It's tough, but it should pay off downrange.
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Originally Posted by oldmako
The most important aspect of the RHA is that you are using pre-tax dollars upfront to fund it and they become ZERO tax dollars later on when you use the money.

Unless one already has a ton of money set aside, it's a no brainer. I think that ALPA's suggestion is for pilots to shoot for a $200K RHA at retirement, per couple. And when you factor in maxing out your 401 contributions early in the calendar year and then adding post-tax dollars to your retirement lump. It's tough, but it should pay off downrange.
Triple tax advantage. Pretax in, tax free growth (7.8% YTD), untaxed out. R&I said about 200 pilots put 100% of paycheck into PRAP to start the year and around 3/16 the 16% spills into RHA for remainder of the year. Side benefit, after pretax 401k limit is reached, do the rest post tax and convert it to Roth for no taxable 70 1/2 RMD requirement.

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