Nice thanks! I have my CJO just waiting on a date, think I was one of the first ones to interview so hopefully not too much longer

Agreed. Just announced up to 80% schedule in July. I keep knocking on wood, but we're getting closer to the point where hiring is not just an aggressive strategy for the future, but a present necessity!

Yep, “most,” and definitely not all. I’m still on the 787. Gronowski told me they’re putting a delay on training, at least for June due to 787 staffing issues. I’m waiting on my RQ2 class to go back to DCA 320.

Bidding options for 5/18/2021
DEN 320 FO
GUM 737 FO
LAX 737 FO
EWR 737 FO
SFO 737 FO

My buddy in the class texted that it was actually only one 320 and that the other thirty-something were guppies.

1 - 320 DEN
Up to 3 - 737 GUM (1 took it)
Up to 8 - 737 LAX (2 took it)
Unlimited - 737 EWR
Unlimited - 737 SFO

Majority took EWR.

Do they mail you a hard copy of the cjo or email it? Also congratulations

Its an email and then you get another letter to sign when assigned a class, not sure if that’s mail or email

Congrats!!!

That's too bad. They used to have fun with the phone calls.

They'd call, introduce themselves, then start making small talk while you wondered what they were going to say. Eventually, they'd ask if you were going to take your family out to dinner tonight to celebrate.

I still remember that call. I was doing a live check IAH-AEX, we just pulled into the gate, shut down the plane and I told the crew I was going up top to list for the jumpseat.

I turned my phone on it ringed and my life changed! I knew the CA fairly well. He asked who was that and I told him that it was my ticket to UA. Needless to say they passed their line check.

I’ve not met the lady currently in charge of hiring, and I’m sure she’s wonderful, but it’s sad to hear they don’t do this anymore. When Doris retired they lost a gem.

Got that call while preflighting in Kelowna, BC, in December. Never felt the cold on that walk around.

That’s unfortunate to hear that CJOs are via email. Charlie Venema called me with the job offer in early 2013.

Are there social distancing limits on class size? Going to be tough to run 190 through only 3 classes

the facilities are able to accommodate classes that large with social distancing. However, I think Colorado’s Covid rules will be rescinded by then.

Colorado doesn’t require social distancing with 100 people or less indoors.

good stuff. Amazing what can change in a few weeks time.

I was in upgrade school at my regional and got the call while on the bus to the hotel.

Manly tears shed.

I was sitting in the Eagles Nest "crew room" at LAX filling out some new hires IOE paperwork. I saw the Denver area code and knew it was a good thing!

So once hired how is the training environment? Do people wash out? Is it a positive environment to help each other out? Is it an aqp program? Are the 737 and bus hard to learn coming from a regional jet? Any tips and advice to possible new hires?

Interesting one a LCA and one never a captain?

UAL was my sixth airline. There is no comparison to any of the others. You'll feel welcomed and will be treated like an adult.

It is possible to wash out but very rare. One story was a new-hire who wouldn't stay off his cell phone in the sim even after being told several times. The screening process does a pretty good job of ensuring that new-hires are trainable and the training program is designed to give you the help you need to succeed.

Very much so.

Yes, AQP.

I think the hardest course, that a new-hire can get, is the 756 and that only because there are so many variants to learn; 757-200, 757-300, 767-300, and 767-400. Several regional-only pilots in my class took 756, though, and none had any trouble.

Just be professional. Study. Enjoy the experience.

Thank you so much for your insights. This sounds like the place I can flourish in if successful with the application and interview process. I was bummed when Xjt shuttered operations. I know it’ll be a while before I get the chance to be looked at by untied but your insights have a positive vibe not encountered often here on apc. Once again thank you

I agree with everything written here. Perfect description

So any word on today's drop?

I was a captain for nearly 5 years and a LCA for 2 so I don't know what you are talking about. You obviously have me confused with someone else.

737 - GUM (2), LAX (15), EWR (no limit), SFO (no limit)

Still no love for the bus? Or 756?

He was referencing you (the LCA) AND blizzue (the person you quoted).

What’s the bidding protocol in new hire class these days? Day one they give you the availability and day 2 you bid? Or all on day one?

All on day 1.

How hard is the 737 to learn coming from a regional aircraft?

Also what are the pros and cons of being based out west compared to the East coast? I’ve experienced EWR and it was pretty cool but the crash pad/city was not so great. I remember pre pandemic getting to SFO was like getting to the gates of heaven only to have a past full of sin and gin. Heck EWR was pretty much the same too.

it’s not hard, just like any other training program, learn the flows, call outs, memory items, and limitations and the rest will follow. I wouldn’t say there are any pros or cons to either coast except for where you want to live. If you get the 756, then east coast means Europe, west coast means Hawaii.

also, junior means you will start every trip with a red eye on the west coast and east coast means you will often end a trip with a red eye....ymmv but that has been my experience

Thanks for this not that I expected anything else. Starting class June 15th.

So here's the most important question (;)) what's the dress code these days? Still a suit on day one and business casual for the rest of training? I've been out of 121 for 10 years, and it's been 20 years since my last "first day". Or will that all come in a yet to be received email?

Thanks!

If your class is on Jun 15th, you should have gotten all of that info from the BI site by now. Look on there and it should give you the latest as it pertains to the specific course. My info is dated, but probably still true. Dress code was standard TK… business travel guidelines. Some people wore suits on the first day, but it’s not required, although in general people dressed better that day.

Thank you!

Also, I haven't been given any access to a Basic Indoc site.

Probably comes out two weeks prior, so if you haven’t received anything about 10 days out I’d call pilot development.

Perfect thank you

You take your id photo on day one so people started wearing suits. You can get your id photo redone anytime you are back at the training center. It is business casual until you get your wings at the end of week two.