It’s funny how obvious that joke is to me, but seems to have been lost on some people. U2, sausage-fingered pressure suit…. Maybe that’s clearer.

Flown all except 777. Think the a320 is a "very comfortable" POS.

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that’s fantastic!!

Truth! The Airbus 319/320 are a POS. It's a terrible airplane for the pilots, FAs and the pax. Hear the complaints all the time and I'm embarrassed UA keeps them on property. The trips are terrible. All we fly are three and four legs a day, with a lot of redeyes and then layover at crappy airport hotels. UA 737 trips are truly much better...mostly one leg a day trips with beach layovers every night. The Airbus flight deck is a terrible layout, wouldn't wish it on any pilot. Anyone senior to summer 2015 needs to bid Boeing ... "if it's Boeing, I'm not going", right!? Seriously, stay away from Airbus, especially when UA gets the 321 and the 350 on property. Airbus is terrible, such a miserable experience. Stay away, trust me!

"UA 737 trips are truly much better...mostly one leg a day trips with beach layovers every night."

What base is this?! I need to rethink how I'm bidding...

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^^^ Now this is funny. Airbus is a Nice plane to fly but you get crappy trips… reason I bid 756.

Airbus
hydraulic system sounds like a barking dog to the pax
doesn’t climb any better than a rj 200 above 25k feet
fly it long enough and your skills will diminish
did I mention severely underpowered?
But hey , the seat swivels for easy outs

I didn’t know they flew the bus at Air Wisconsin.

I’ve been in enough Jumpseats on them to see what was going on .

yes it makes noise, oh well. At least it’s not shooting flames visible to the passengers like the 727 APU could.

climbs just fine.

and what skills would those be?

not underpowered at all.

but hey what do I know I’ve only flown it for 13 years vs riding the jumpseat.

Oh thank goodness. And here I thought you didn’t know what you were talking about. Maybe the next time you’re in the jumpseat, you can show the pilots how to swivel the seats.

never said I’ve flown it but I have flown Boeing products in years past .
In addition, every crew that I’ve had the pleasure of jumpseating with constantly complained and $itched about it being underpowered.And yes , the hydraulic system does sound like a barking dog 😂😂😂😂

If you want to see underpowered, go ride on a 737-900ER on a hot day in Denver. At normal flaps 5 settings you are very close to exceeding the max tire speeds before the thing starts to fly. After a very long takeoff roll it then climbs out like it got punched in the gut. Then there’s the alternate flaps 5 go around procedure because it doesn’t have the power to go around and meet the climb requirements on one engine at the normal flaps 15 setting. Not all Boeing’s are created equal.

Almost spit my coffee on that one.


The things some people say… LOL

Did they fix any of the 900 problems on the max, ie the go around, the tail stand, the long takeoff rolls, the anemic A/C, not being able to flare?

Not flaming, genuinely curious.

The max is just an efficient 737. Still has the alternate go around, kickstand, etc. It is not quite as noisy, but definitely not as quiet as other fleets. The APU and packs seem to work better, but we haven’t beat the new planes to death yet. As far as not being able to flare. I never really noticed that as a problem since I learned on 727’s and land everything flat. The tail strike problems aren’t from flaring, but mostly from bounced landings resulting from bad technique. People land with power and bounce, they then chop the power which allows the spoilers to deploy since wheel spin up occurred on the bounce and the power is now at idle, which then leads to a busted plane. Most of the tail strike issues are simply due to poor pilot technique.

...and not raise your head and look at the overhead panel.:cool:

From a pax perspective, the packs are terrible on the ground. You see a lot of people reaching up to try to open the gasper only to find it is open. But it is noticeably quieter than the NG.

I’m glad someone besides me has a sense of humor 😂

Until I got bifocals I didn’t know my neck could tilt that far back. Trying to see a switch at the top of the panel through the bottom of your glasses is entertaining. I’ve turned into the old guy that I used to laugh at. Cant hear, can’t see, and just want to go get some sleep at the end of the day.

The max seems is a little better than the NG, but the inability to keep the cabin cool on the ground is still a major design flaw. You’d think that repeatedly stretching a 50+ year old design would work better than that.

This weeks class drop anyone?

6/15 Drop:

GUM 737 X 7, EWR 756 X 2, EWR 320 X 7, EWR/SFO/LAX 737 Unlimited

Thank you!

After getting the job offer, how long after do you get to pick your base, equip, seat?

First day of class, you find out what’s available. That same day, after lunch, is when you pick.

If you are asking how long from job offer to class start, that’s another thread topic.

Anyone have an idea how many 737s were actually chosen at each base?

Who cares as long as they are junior to you!!!

truth…

But if there are 25 new 737 guys in EWR that’s even better for me!

Aaaaahhhhh. I see what your doing. Hunting the G Line. FWIW on the EWR town hall today it sounded like todays drop may have given you those 25. Cant verify though but the comment came up that 38 of the 40 were going to EWR with only 7 must fill seats 320/756.

Thanks for the intel, that’s great news!

13 737s to EWR.

Not to worry. At least half of the FNGs going EWR 737 will bid out of there on the next vacancy bid. Same with SFO. Standard churn; that's why there are always a ton of vacancies to EWR and SFO ... because most bid out of those bases at the first opportunity. What you need to watch for is people senior to you bidding INTO EWR 737FO on vacancy bids and base trades - they'll stay there.
It's a constant 3 steps forward, 2 steps back.

If there was a choice of 756 and 737, as an east coast commuter which would be the best option?

loaded question. Generally speaking, the faster you can get to a line as a commuter the better which means 737. However the 756 has lots of Europe so late starts and early finishes, however you’ll be on reserve for a long time. Personally I’d go 737 and get to a line as fast as possible.

737.

You'll build seniority faster and can still bid up to the 756 at any time. If you take the 756 initially, you'll be blocked from bidding down the the 737 or 320 for two years.

Bid the 737, fly a few months to get to know the system and your commute. Keep an eye on the 756 schedules that people junior to you are holding then bid the 756 when it looks better than what you're flying on the 737.

Thanks for the response! How long does it take to be able to hold a 737 line as of right now in EWR? Obviously I know it won’t be exact, just a ball park figure. Thanks again.

A few months probably. Late 2019 hires are still on reserve but that should change.

What is a ballpark upgrade time in SFO and LAX on narrow bodies?

Rough estimate 3 to 5 years IF…….

If is the thing that’s always out there.