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Old 02-09-2018, 11:56 AM
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Maybe I missed it, but how many hew hire v. Returning?
32 new hires. unknown, to me atleast l, how many furlough returns.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by snolat View Post
Maybe I missed it, but how many hew hire v. Returning?
The classes are separate. Returning pilots go to 1 week of "Redoc", which starts on Monday. New hires go to 2 weeks of "BI", which starts on Tuesday. Not much overlap. My unconfirmed intel suggest each Redoc class is normally limited to about 9 returnees (max). Based on posts in this forum, the BI classes seem to have about 31 or 32, so the pilot training load in Denver is about 40 pilots per cycle. I believe the Feb 5th Redoc class had about 9 returnees and I think the Feb 19th Redoc class will have about 6 returnees...but all of this is based on 2nd hand info.
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32 new hires per class would be nice. Thanks guys.
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unless something has changed in the last 4 years returnees (furlough/mil leave) go to BI just like new hires... unless they have been out for less than a year.
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unless something has changed in the last 4 years returnees (furlough/mil leave) go to BI just like new hires... unless they have been out for less than a year.
I had 2 returnees in my BI class in 15 as well.

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unless something has changed
Yes, it changed recently.
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How many furloughees are still out there?

When is the final ‘last call’ when they have to accept recall or lose their chance?

I know it would be a guess, but what percentage do you think will accept recall?

As reference, the final group of the furloughed exTWA AA pilots had significantly less than 50% that accepted ‘last call’.
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Originally Posted by ugleeual View Post
unless something has changed in the last 4 years returnees (furlough/mil leave) go to BI just like new hires... unless they have been out for less than a year.
Yeah, not true. I have personal knowledge that's not the way it is. It should be, but it's not.
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Originally Posted by TransWorld View Post
How many furloughees are still out there?

When is the final ‘last call’ when they have to accept recall or lose their chance?

I know it would be a guess, but what percentage do you think will accept recall?

As reference, the final group of the furloughed exTWA AA pilots had significantly less than 50% that accepted ‘last call’.
There are still about 200 out. The first group has to be back by fall of this year, 08' furloughs, and the second group needs to be back by next fall, 09' furloughs.

UAL furloughed 1437 and CAL furloughed 147. So thats a pretty high return percentage.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
There are still about 200 out. The first group has to be back by fall of this year, 08' furloughs, and the second group needs to be back by next fall, 09' furloughs.

UAL furloughed 1437 and CAL furloughed 147. So thats a pretty high return percentage.
Thanks! Think that helps a lot who were unclear.

Just for clarification, the return percentage for the exTWA AA Pilots I was saying was of the very ‘last call’ batch.

There were well over a thousand that returned in previous years. There were a few hundred that declined and came off the list in previous years. I am not talking about them.
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