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Old 01-29-2018, 01:33 PM
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How in the world is United planning on competing domestically? Seems like they are grasping at straws. Spirit and Southwest kill them in CASM. Are they going to hemmorage cash in a fare war they can't win to prove a point? Wonder if we reaching the point in the UAL cycle where they "hire until it's time to furlough."
did you get banned SkyW? to bad......good luck this time around
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What a tool.
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:43 PM
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Honestly brand new to these chat boards, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. I find it interesting you don't have any answers to what my question is. If the likes of SWA and Spirit have significantly
lower costs, what is the plan here? To start a fare war you can't win?
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SongPilot View Post
Honestly brand new to these chat boards, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. I find it interesting you don't have any answers to what my question is. If the likes of SWA and Spirit have significantly
lower costs, what is the plan here? To start a fare war you can't win?
Go read all of your posts in the "Earnings Live" thread.

And if you really are new read all of the really good post before you destroyed the thread. All of your questions will be answered.
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I'm new and don't know your insider code. Just pointing out how this seems to be a fools errand. Good luck. Looks like the stock market tends to agree with me and you guys are sticking your heads in the sand. I literally don't have a dog in this fight, but it I owned UAL stock or was junior there, I would be concerned. Just seems dumb...
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:02 PM
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Honestly brand new to these chat boards, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. I find it interesting you don't have any answers to what my question is. If the likes of SWA and Spirit have significantly
lower costs, what is the plan here? To start a fare war you can't win?
It's called, in airline parlance, the "S" curve. That's essentially what Kirby is advocating, pushing market share further right on that curve. It works.
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It's a simple argument. Short term it pays to shrink. Long-term someone will see that your markets are under served and enter. The market wants the status quo.

RE: RJs. More 50 seaters is not bad for us because it opens up more smaller markets with less competition and provides more customers. If applied correctly it works out for us and doesn't erode job protections for us as we will never bring a 737 into a market that can only support 100 pax a day.

Where RJs will hurt us is up-gauging smaller markets where there IS demand and they want to bring in 6 E-175s OR 4 E-190s instead of 2-3 737s. This is what Kirby wants, especially if he can get the C-Series or E-190E2 into SkyWest or Republic's hands instead of ours.
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In this case, the best response is no response.

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I'm new and don't know your insider code. Just pointing out how this seems to be a fools errand. Good luck. Looks like the stock market tends to agree with me and you guys are sticking your heads in the sand. I literally don't have a dog in this fight, but it I owned UAL stock or was junior there, I would be concerned. Just seems dumb...
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