I have heard stories of “good dudes” failing the Hogan but never a “good dude” I know personally. Now there is a complete prick that I used to work with...the stab-you-in-the-back type...failed the Hogan. So happy! All the good dudes I know have had noooo problem. If you fail it...its time to look in the mirror.

 

Well I know the exact opposite to have happened. Good dudes I know failing, and two people I never would want to fly with again passing. So no, not time to look in the mirror.

 

I took the Hogan today around 2:30pm and received the interview invite a few hours later. Interview dates are mid May.

Thanks for all of the help!

 

It was $200 on Ready Set Takeoff. I was nervous after I read about people failing it.

You take a practice Hogan then they go over it with you. They explain what the question really is asking which makes the answer obvious. I found it helpful.

 

Awesome!

Congrats.

 

Good luck with the interview. Keep us posted.

 

Exactly. It’s pretty ridiculous the number of guys, at my last job, who would get the Hogan and then told to get lost. One got to retake it 1.5 years later (and passed), the others are all at Delta and one is FedEx. So they weren’t good enough for United, but obviously more than capable to fly at your competitors? So so stupid, especially since United was a lot of these guys dream job.

What is the unions take on the Hogan? It sounded like they are not a fan of this at all. They aren’t stupid and they have to know that for every applicant United rejects, with the Hogan, practically all end up at your legacy counterparts/competition.

If they want to use the Hogan, so be it, but I feel United is really doing a disservice by not at least interviewing these guys face-to-face. There are tons of great people who would be terrific that they are missing out on.

 

My sense is the Hogan is a way for HR to thin the applicant field to make their decision easier about who to bring in for an interview. Though I (thankfully) never had to take it, I couldn't agree more that it sounds like BS. If the applicant field thins to the point where qualifications alone will limit the field of applicants, I think the Hogan might get thrown out.

 

I also failed Hogan, but ended up at Southwest a couple months later, so I never bothered reapplying at United. Had several UAL recommendations including 2 chiefs, but apparently, Hogan knows better.

I guess that's not nearly as bad as the guy whose entire family was UAL, he had something like a dozen recommendations from UAL pilots who flew with him earlier, he also had several chiefs' recommendations who tracked his career and still, he got shot down by Hogan. THAT was horrible...

The impersonal nature of outright rejecting a candidate solely based on an unproctored personality index speaks volumes about the underlying corporate culture and attitude towards its employees. The personal recommendations and experiences the current employees had and share with the interview/selection team regarding an applicant do not matter, yet a computer algorithm is all that matters. Cold...

Gotta say I've become a pretty big fan of SWA and FDX's line-oriented-interview (LOI) portion as opposed to something like Hogan. The interview team actually meets with an applicant. They run him/her through the process and score the applicant. They actually get to see what the person would be like on the line under a professionally stressful situation which is where, according to the interviewers I flew with, you learn far more about the individual than you do by a true/false vague question personality index like Hogan.

But when it's all said and done... it's United's choice to use any screening tool they want, and if you want to work for United, yours is to do what they want and hopefully, you'll make it through.

 

Everyone remember, what we think are great guys, good pilots, and great employees is not necessarily what the company thinks. I'm in no way defending the practice, and I did not have to take the Hogan, but the company probably values different traits than we do.

The Hogan is a way to whittle down the applicant pool and decide who to bring in for interviews. The time may soon be coming where UAL will not have that luxury.

I imagine some of the traits the company is looking for are, follow management's lead, don't ask questions, just do what we tell you, be happy with the contract you have 'cause we can take it away through bankruptcy, personally help out the company each and every leg by not adding fuel, and/or reducing it!! Independent thinking is probably a no-no too.