Three JS listed, two JS on Airbus
05-29-2018, 05:49 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve see his happen....
Coulda been right at 1 hour prior, agent was there and the guy just asked to go down.
Had he waited, he would have held a seat in the back. Or worse, on the bus/75 or 76/777 when they used to do more domestic hub to hub and 2 guys go down RIGHT AWAY that could have held seats in the back.
Coulda been right at 1 hour prior, agent was there and the guy just asked to go down.
Had he waited, he would have held a seat in the back. Or worse, on the bus/75 or 76/777 when they used to do more domestic hub to hub and 2 guys go down RIGHT AWAY that could have held seats in the back.
As a nonrev standby, how do you “hold” a seat in the back regardless of seniority? Not sure as to what you’re referring to.
05-29-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptGringo
As a nonrev standby, how do you “hold” a seat in the back regardless of seniority? Not sure as to what you’re referring to.
Once for SA, other for JS.
By the time all the no shows and misconnects were accounted for and the non-revs start getting cleared, and sure as sh1t it got down to where their name WAS on the SA list.
IOW, they could have held a seat in the back, yet just took the JS and sent down without even waiting for it to pan out.
05-29-2018, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Snyper00
Am I the only one that thinks that our jumpseat rules are complete garbage? Every other airline does FCFS within a time window and we’re the only place where a senior guy can list 10 mins prior to push and bump you off. Which has happened to me more than once already. Glad we’re on the same team! 🙄
05-29-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JetBlast77
I completely agree. We should at least have a cut off time. It’s absolutely ridiculous and stupid IMO
05-29-2018, 04:21 PM
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Another suck is asking a Delta or Southwest pilot if they would mind sitting in the flight attendant jumpseat so you can take their cockpit jump. UA pilots o can not reciprocate because that is the United flight attendant's jumpseat and not United's. The rules do need a visit. This crap is antiquated. Not sure what the argument is on allowing FAs in our jumpseat. They are up there already.
05-30-2018, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Opelmanta
Another suck is asking a Delta or Southwest pilot if they would mind sitting in the flight attendant jumpseat so you can take their cockpit jump. UA pilots o can not reciprocate because that is the United flight attendant's jumpseat and not United's. The rules do need a visit. This crap is antiquated. Not sure what the argument is on allowing FAs in our jumpseat. They are up there already.
I agree that the pilots should have access to the cabin jumpseat with a priority given to UA flight attendants. Considering that it is an empty seat, with the ability to get a crewmember in position to perform duty for the company, it seems crazy that the airline would choose to restrict this.
I also agree that we should allow a reservation system for the pilots that allows us to guarantee the js. Once again the company benefits because the pilot gets to work and it allows alternative planning for everyone well in advance of 10 minutes prior to push.
And it relieves the agent of one more last minute duty.
My feelings about changing the jumpseat system seemed to be in the minority in the last thread this was discussed.
05-30-2018, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Let’s say the flight is showing -5, you see the names on the list and theirs is listed twice.
Once for SA, other for JS.
By the time all the no shows and misconnects were accounted for and the non-revs start getting cleared, and sure as sh1t it got down to where their name WAS on the SA list.
IOW, they could have held a seat in the back, yet just took the JS and sent down without even waiting for it to pan out.
Once for SA, other for JS.
By the time all the no shows and misconnects were accounted for and the non-revs start getting cleared, and sure as sh1t it got down to where their name WAS on the SA list.
IOW, they could have held a seat in the back, yet just took the JS and sent down without even waiting for it to pan out.
But then wouldn’t that seat that the senior guy would have had in the back just go to the next guy down the list? Still gets filled by the next most senior non rev right?
05-30-2018, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptGringo
But then wouldn’t that seat that the senior guy would have had in the back just go to the next guy down the list? Still gets filled by the next most senior non rev right?
05-30-2018, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptGringo
But then wouldn’t that seat that the senior guy would have had in the back just go to the next guy down the list? Still gets filled by the next most senior non rev right?
Getting the most senior non rev on in your example would often not be the junior pilot but someone else.
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