Contract 2019
06-18-2018 | 08:34 PM
#91
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It’s 2018 and let’s think about inflation before you make comments
18% DOS
Plus 4% every March 1st starting March 1st 2019 for 4 years
8 hours per month sick accrual for a max of 1200 and when a pilot retires 50% of sick hours banked will go to VEBA account for retired pilots health expenses
5 hours per day training pay with less than 5 days
3.2 hours training pay for training pay if more than 5 days
18% percent A and B fund for all income earned other than perdiem
4 hours per day vacation pay
$3 per hour domestic and $4 international Perdiem
$5 for FO and $7 for captain Intl override
Reserve pay: 4 hours and 36 minutes per reserve day with 13 days off minimum for reserve pilots on a 30 or less days per month and 14 days off for all 31 day months . All short calls after the first 2 as add pay one hour per day and not assignable rather aggressive pick up only unless not enough picking it up then company can assign to meet the min short call coverage
LTD $12000 per month tax free with company paying 60% of the funding with the employee paying %40 for it
VEBA amount $1.50 per hour every month for all credit hours
Profit sharing the same
Scope no change
Health insurance/life insurance no change
Anything else will be a concession
Very fair for all parties involved for 2019 to 2023 with labor peace for both
It will cost the company less than 7% pilot payroll increase and on 40 billion dollar sales with pilot payroll around 11 percent it will be around 350 million payroll increase per year and that’s 20 days worth of their profit per YEAR if they expect 4 to 5 billion annual profits
18% DOS
Plus 4% every March 1st starting March 1st 2019 for 4 years
8 hours per month sick accrual for a max of 1200 and when a pilot retires 50% of sick hours banked will go to VEBA account for retired pilots health expenses
5 hours per day training pay with less than 5 days
3.2 hours training pay for training pay if more than 5 days
18% percent A and B fund for all income earned other than perdiem
4 hours per day vacation pay
$3 per hour domestic and $4 international Perdiem
$5 for FO and $7 for captain Intl override
Reserve pay: 4 hours and 36 minutes per reserve day with 13 days off minimum for reserve pilots on a 30 or less days per month and 14 days off for all 31 day months . All short calls after the first 2 as add pay one hour per day and not assignable rather aggressive pick up only unless not enough picking it up then company can assign to meet the min short call coverage
LTD $12000 per month tax free with company paying 60% of the funding with the employee paying %40 for it
VEBA amount $1.50 per hour every month for all credit hours
Profit sharing the same
Scope no change
Health insurance/life insurance no change
Anything else will be a concession
Very fair for all parties involved for 2019 to 2023 with labor peace for both
It will cost the company less than 7% pilot payroll increase and on 40 billion dollar sales with pilot payroll around 11 percent it will be around 350 million payroll increase per year and that’s 20 days worth of their profit per YEAR if they expect 4 to 5 billion annual profits
And no, I'm 23% on my fleet, just saying.
06-19-2018 | 05:52 AM
#93
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A concession is giving up what we already have, not failing to get improvements that we would like.
The company wants a quick deal only if they get scope relief. Being that there is very little chance that they will get it, we will most likely see the usual drawn out negotiations. Without scope relief there is no reason for the company to increase pilot labor cost. Personally I’d rather sign an improved contract with scope intact down the road than give away something so important. Time will tell.
The company wants a quick deal only if they get scope relief. Being that there is very little chance that they will get it, we will most likely see the usual drawn out negotiations. Without scope relief there is no reason for the company to increase pilot labor cost. Personally I’d rather sign an improved contract with scope intact down the road than give away something so important. Time will tell.
06-19-2018 | 06:10 AM
#94
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The argument the company and the union gave about not providing wide body pay for this aircraft was that "it was going away."
2 points.
It hasn't gone away, and even if it does, so what, it should pay correctly. It is downright disrespectful to the pilots for our union to ignore this very important point.
06-19-2018 | 07:13 AM
#95
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From: FO
Scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being guaranteed significant increases, what is the probability of a raise of more than 4-5%? My guess is a 3, very low chance of a large salary increase. But the 18% suggested above? That would be wonderful.
06-19-2018 | 07:25 AM
#96
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From: B777 CA
We had $7500 tax free at CAL 20 years ago when top rates were in the low 190’s. Add in your 18% DOS to pay rates at 12K with no B & C is extremly low. We can do much better.
06-19-2018 | 07:34 AM
#97
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From: SFO Guppy CA
There should be caps on SC and FSB amounts. Too much abuse by the Crew Desk. I’m not on reserve either. Also, if on reserve you should be able to bypass if there are reserves that are lower in seniority (same availability).
06-19-2018 | 10:09 AM
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A concession is giving up what we already have, not failing to get improvements that we would like.
The company wants a quick deal only if they get scope relief. Being that there is ZERO chance that they will get it, we will most likely see the usual drawn out negotiations. Without scope relief there is no reason for the company to increase pilot labor cost. Personally I’d rather sign an improved contract with scope intact down the road than give away something so important. Time will tell.
The company wants a quick deal only if they get scope relief. Being that there is ZERO chance that they will get it, we will most likely see the usual drawn out negotiations. Without scope relief there is no reason for the company to increase pilot labor cost. Personally I’d rather sign an improved contract with scope intact down the road than give away something so important. Time will tell.
06-19-2018 | 07:48 PM
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