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06-21-2018, 09:43 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by catIIIc
Exactly we are paid industry rates for the 767-300 what would you like to give up to pay for this luxury. And with the 787’s coming to EWR even more opportunity to bid off the 767.
06-21-2018, 10:41 AM
#112
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They could do that because the rest of our contract was a joke, zero work rules, dh over to Europe to work it back, 50% dh, although that was temporary,rest seat in coach, just to name a few. Yes maybe we defied the industry standard on 767-200 rates(for 12 airplanes) but the rest of the contract was well below industry standard
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06-21-2018, 12:31 PM
#113
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
You were not lied to. 21 of the 35 UA 763's are 25 years or older which is the planned retirement age for mainline jets. The decision to extend their lives was made based on recent circumstances. UA 763s are paid comparably to DAL and AAL, and the 16 764 that are about 17 years old pay the same as 777s.
It has also been almost six years since the contract was signed. You have had ample opportunity to escape the injustice that is the 763.
It has also been almost six years since the contract was signed. You have had ample opportunity to escape the injustice that is the 763.
The plane weighs almost three times more than a 737-800, can fly twice as far, carries more people and a lot more cargo, yet only pays $10 more per hour. Who cares what DAL and AMR pay for theirs. For everyone who escapes it's "injustice", someone else has to fly it.
06-21-2018, 12:49 PM
#114
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Originally Posted by catIIIc
They could do that because the rest of our contract was a joke, zero work rules, dh over to Europe to work it back, 50% dh, although that was temporary,rest seat in coach, just to name a few. Yes maybe we defied the industry standard on 767-200 rates(for 12 airplanes) but the rest of the contract was well below industry standard
06-21-2018, 01:32 PM
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If I remember correctly the CAL contract had the 767-400 at the same pay as 777? The UAL contract had 757 & 767 grouped together at a higher rate that A320 and 727, but less than 777. The historical idea seemed to be pay the two together at a higher rate and more pilots will benefit than having 767 higher and 757 lower.
Also UAL was the kick-off customer in 1981/82 for the first 767. I think it was sold contractually as a size between narrow and wide body, 727/DC8 and DC10/747. We also had multiple pay rates for sizes based on GW; 3 727 rates, multiple DC8, DC10-10, -30, 747... it got a bit confusing, but in it all we never had a pay check screw-up.
Also UAL was the kick-off customer in 1981/82 for the first 767. I think it was sold contractually as a size between narrow and wide body, 727/DC8 and DC10/747. We also had multiple pay rates for sizes based on GW; 3 727 rates, multiple DC8, DC10-10, -30, 747... it got a bit confusing, but in it all we never had a pay check screw-up.
06-21-2018, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Um...
Can we get back to Fussball talk?!
Some interesting games so far. Lot's of upsets and sleeper teams.
Getting interesting as the 2nd set of games get going!
Motch~
Can we get back to Fussball talk?!
Some interesting games so far. Lot's of upsets and sleeper teams.
Getting interesting as the 2nd set of games get going!
Motch~
06-21-2018, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Um...
Can we get back to Fussball talk?!
Some interesting games so far. Lot's of upsets and sleeper teams.
Getting interesting as the 2nd set of games get going!
Motch~
Can we get back to Fussball talk?!
Some interesting games so far. Lot's of upsets and sleeper teams.
Getting interesting as the 2nd set of games get going!
Motch~
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