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Freight Dawg 07-15-2018 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2635130)
I agree. But this is an issue of education and peer pressure......As pilots and as senior Captains we can do more to politely apply peer pressure so that the desired

I love the world we live in now. Peer pressure, public shaming, etc. Oh, I need to " educate" you. Don't like what's going on, through a hissy fit and cry like a little...

Never mind....

bifff15 07-16-2018 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Freight Dawg (Post 2635608)
I love the world we live in now. Peer pressure, public shaming, etc. Oh, I need to " educate" you. Don't like what's going on, through a hissy fit and cry like a little...

Never mind....

Sad but true...

757Driver 07-16-2018 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2635329)
Yes, and it doesn't take the Captain out of anything, he ultimately has the last say, but probably should have some justification for punting the proactive pilot in favor of the walked-up entitled one (and I'm generally senior enough to get the seat), but allowing people to reserve the JS allows for much more predictability in everyone's plans.

Moot point. If it’s reserved, the more senior types won’t even bother showing up. Captain takes the one and only guy and that’s only if he bothers to show up.

Hopefully will never happen over here.

tunes 07-16-2018 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by rp2pilot (Post 2635083)
So, you have 4 guys all going to work.. who gets the jumpseat?



The one that reserved it


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VnavPath 07-16-2018 07:45 PM

There's a reason virtually all of our peer airlines (DL, AA, FDX, UPS, etc) all use a reservation system for the Jumpseat now. It's just better, period. AA went to it fairly recently and even the senior guys there say it's better then what they had before (seniority system), I commute on them often and thats the overwhelming sentiment. A lot less confusion and uncertainty at the gate and once its yours its yours, no risk of getting bumped at all. In fact their (AA) commuter policy states that if you are number 1 for the JS then all you need is that one flight. That's because it's confirmed seat, pretty nice huh? Anyway, perhaps a hybrid system could work here, such as seniority gets you the Jumpseat until 24hrs prior then at that point if its still open it becomes first come first serve reservation. That would allow senior guys to exercise seniority and everyone else to have some transparency and predictably in their commuting lives.

ron kent 07-16-2018 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by VnavPath (Post 2636249)
There's a reason virtually all of our peer airlines (DL, AA, FDX, UPS, etc) all use a reservation system for the Jumpseat now. It's just better, period. AA went to it fairly recently and even the senior guys there say it's better then what they had before (seniority system), I commute on them often and thats the overwhelming sentiment. A lot less confusion and uncertainty at the gate and once its yours its yours, no risk of getting bumped at all. In fact their (AA) commuter policy states that if you are number 1 for the JS then all you need is that one flight. That's because it's confirmed seat, pretty nice huh? Anyway, perhaps a hybrid system could work here, such as seniority gets you the Jumpseat until 24hrs prior then at that point if its still open it becomes first come first serve reservation. That would allow senior guys to exercise seniority and everyone else to have some transparency and predictably in their commuting lives.

I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉

guppie 07-16-2018 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by ron kent (Post 2636281)
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉

Can I get an amen?! If the boarding door is open, so is the JS. :cool:

757Driver 07-17-2018 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by ron kent (Post 2636281)
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉

Yup, agree. Yet another scheme to skip dues paying, IMO.

baseball 07-17-2018 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by ron kent (Post 2636281)
I say the most senior guy gets to “reserve” the jumpseat all the way up to pushback.😉

If it’s reserved, how do we keep scabs from reserving it? I think reserving it could have some unintended consequences.

SUX4U 07-17-2018 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2636435)
If it’s reserved, how do we keep scabs from reserving it? I think reserving it could have some unintended consequences.

I would love to know how many of our captains have actually denied a scab the jumpseat over the past 5 years. I’m thinking scabs are likely riding trouble free 95% of the time.


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