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TripleSpool 04-22-2019 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by FlySaint (Post 2804169)
I listed a ticket that I know I had, but was not showing in the DMV report I ordered. Never heard a peep about it in the entire process. You’re not going to lose the job over a speeding ticket. But you will lose it over dishonesty, as perceived by the company, whether intentional on your part or an oversight.

I think there is a fine line between dishonesty and a lack of supporting documentation. This is one of those moments where self-incrimination is a virtue. e.g. I remember being pulled over 20 years ago but don't recall a speeding ticket. I think it was a warning.
Action: List it anyway.

While I agree with the premise of honesty, I don't think minor traffic violations should be on the table. Especially not ones for which no record exists on a state level. My last employer simply wanted to see a
clear driving record with no existing violations (DUIs, DWIs, reckless driving etc.) To each his own.

Fourpaw 04-23-2019 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by 14bis (Post 2806695)
This question was asked to the UAL recruiters during the virtual job fair last week, here is what they said: "no specific application questions are to be answered here." So I guess we're toasted!!!

But let's be hopeful that we get invited to the next Hiring Expo this coming September...

I wouldn’t necessarily take that as bad. It just sounds like a standard answer to app questions. It would be no different if someone asked if more PIC time would help their case, etc...

Grumpyaviator 04-25-2019 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by 14bis (Post 2806698)
Do you mind sharing the exact email address United used to send the Hogan invite? Part of me still in denial and wants to check in the Junk mail file :rolleyes:

[email protected]

Grumpyaviator 04-25-2019 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by RJCaptin (Post 2804196)
Are you stupid or something? Read the thread. People who were invited to the job fair were the top 1% of their application stack. You dont become the 1% by just flying the line. I am taking about people holding serious positions with their companies, as in, ADP, 119 positions, checkairman, and project managers, in addition to volunteering. United turned their backs on them and hired people not even in the same caliber.

I think the top 1pct were called directly for interviews. I think the expo was for candidates they were on the fence about, otherwise why not just interview them?

Grumpyaviator 04-25-2019 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2806731)
Oh? You failed the Hogan?? You should probably advise your current employer so they can promptly take you off flying status. I mean, after all, you fly legacy passengers to their connecting hubs. The chain is broken.:D What a bunch of meaningless bs.

Any psych major can tell you that these tests are ineffective in revealing a pilot's true mental health. Why? Because people are smart.
Aside from the obvious 'serial killer questions', to which everyone is purvey, they neither prove nor disprove anything.

As a supporting side-note to my argument, Lubitz -the Germanwings pilot, passed his psych evaluation and was totally calm and collected when he locked his partner out of the cockpit and aimed toward the Alps.

The test seemed to be more about finding personalities that fit the company culture than mentally fit pilots. Too bad HR is developing the flight ops culture rather than flight ops.

TripleSpool 04-25-2019 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 2808530)
I think the top 1pct were called directly for interviews. I think the expo was for candidates they were on the fence about, otherwise why not just interview them?

Well, you might be right about that. In a way, they saved a whole bunch of money on those people they didn't feel were worth the continued consideration or were, as you say, on the fence about. That sure would’ve been nice to know.

It’s almost as if the whole Job Expo was developed to be both a money saver for HR and a money maker for the ones servicing the hopefuls. Oh wait, that’s exactly what it is.

TripleSpool 04-25-2019 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 2808533)
The test seemed to be more about finding personalities that fit the company culture than mentally fit pilots. Too bad HR is developing the flight ops culture rather than flight ops.

It’s unfortunate that anyone should think a ‘placement’ test can serve as a gateway into a company’s culture.

SUX4U 04-25-2019 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2808644)
It’s unfortunate that anyone should think a ‘placement’ test can serve as a gateway into a company’s culture.

I haven’t been reading a long with this thread much. Just popped in to see what was going on regarding a job fair from back in September. Triple I’m just curious what your status with United is? Did you attend the job fair and not hear anything back or what? Just from a brief read seems like you are on the war path regarding our hiring practices. I know many of us here myself included aren’t thrilled over the hiring issues here. Just curious where you stand as you are pretty vocal about it all.

TripleSpool 04-25-2019 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2808718)
I haven’t been reading a long with this thread much. Just popped in to see what was going on regarding a job fair from back in September. Triple I’m just curious what your status with United is? Did you attend the job fair and not hear anything back or what? Just from a brief read seems like you are on the war path regarding our hiring practices. I know many of us here myself included aren’t thrilled over the hiring issues here. Just curious where you stand as you are pretty vocal about it all.

My stance is quite evident.
As mentioned earlier I find the process to be inconsistent, filled with nepotism, often biased, and unprincipled in its affiliations.

I have nothing against United. I think it’s a great company but I take issue with their HR philosophy and practice. I’m not alone in this. I know I’m not. And the best part is that I have nothing to lose or gain by speaking my mind because too many (here) live in fear of speaking their minds.

As far as my personal career goals are concerned, I’m fine. I only hope to shed light on what many perceive to be unjust hiring practices.

ecam 04-25-2019 09:57 AM

You youngsters complaining about United's hiring practices might need a history lesson. Pour another cup of coffee and google United + hiring + discrimination. There is a reason it's a lottery now.

https://apnews.com/6d84f2a4bed664453170da35a09d9616


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