Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2801079)

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No amount of validation, company pride or whatever else we can conjure up will justify these hiring practices to me. We all see how incredibly corrupt it really is and I only hope for the sake of future candidates that something changes.

Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2800859)

If you love United so much why are you posting here. Go away.

Originally Posted by texaspropguy (Post 2801108)

...and for all our comrades still at the regionals that rode out the zero-career-progress years of 2008-2013, where increasing the retirement age to 65 and a the W-shaped recession took 7 years away, and now they are being bypassed due to cherry-picking and the appearance of diversification based hiring (disclaimer: I’m not actually confirming that is what is happening though).

Originally Posted by TripleSpool (Post 2801079)

Diversity is neither the point nor the argument. I love diverse cities, companies, and consider myself to be diverse, as well. We are a diverse nation, after all –a nation of immigrants.

Here is the point in case some of you missed it:

Flight Time Requirements (but not for you)
• A minimum of 1,500 hours of total time
• A minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turbine time
• A minimum of 100 hours of complex flight time within the last 12 months

These requirements by their very nature were designed to get those who really couldn’t get hired otherwise to slip through that little crack in the door that is open to the chosen few. Whether those are members of family or a special interest group that can be used in their new marketing maneuver is entirely up to United HR to make the call.

The bottom line is that their algorithm is discriminatory but not in the way of experience or education or anything else. It’s discriminatory because too often it overlooks perfectly eligible candidates in favor of less experienced ones by the stroke of a button; hence, a supposed algorithm is overrode once again by a fallible human-)

So next time you talk to a consulting firm or anyone purvey to The Game, and you share your experience, expect suggestions of: more Job Fairs, more leadership in your resume, more volunteer work, maybe a different company, more PIC Turbine, more flight time in the last year….etc. All the while, an individual with no PIC Turbine (0) and fewer than 3000 hours is sitting in initial after having attended zero job fairs.

No amount of validation, company pride or whatever else we can conjure up will justify these hiring practices to me. We all see how incredibly corrupt it really is and I only hope for the sake of future candidates that something changes.

Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2801154)

This will be the scandal on the news!

Originally Posted by RJCaptin (Post 2801109)

Whats the matter, you dont like the truth snowflake?

Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 2801265)

I just don’t like trolls. Now please go away.

Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ (Post 2800970)

And, we've hired pilot's who aren't "diverse" who fit that description as well, PLENTY of them according to my friends on the hiring board. So do they get the same criticism from you or not?

Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2800647)

That's pretty typical. Expect young females and others checking the diversity box with lower credentials to get hired before a white male with double the flight time and experience.

Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2800536)

My regional sent twin sisters with 2000 TT about a month ago. I guess their dad who’s a pilot knows someone.

Almost everyone I know that’s been hired with “less than average” quals has been a young women

Originally Posted by RJCaptin (Post 2800691)

What are you going to expect from a company that was brought to its knees by a 5 foot man with a criminal history.

Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2800652)

I have seen at least 2 pilots with less than what I would consider "competitive flight time and experience" be hired at UAL. Those two pilots were low on experience but high on diversity. Other groups not in the diversity column were discriminated upon. You can pick the genre or fill in the blank. No one cares any more. It's all talk...blah blah blah.

Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 2798022)

It’s not reverse discrimination, it’s discrimination. Discriminating against a white person is the same as discriminating against a person of any other race.
Before I left for another job, I was a hiring manager for at&t. We were directed who to interview based on how ranked the applicants. The majority of an applicant’s ranking pertained to how they answered the demographic questions. I was once hiring an assistant store manager and had to go through ten applicants before I found one who had management and sales experience. So it was a waste of time filtering through applicants who were ranked high because of their demographics, but had no management or sales experience.

Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 2798003)

Some of us guys with actual experience are sick of hearing that horse $hit...so....don’t.


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Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2801452)

Holy MAGA.



Show me one new hire class photo from the last 20 years with more than 10% minority hiring and I will be quiet. I am a 50 year old white hetero sexual male, 10K hours, 5 type ratings, zero failures, who had his resume walked in by an united A320 chief pilot who used to be charge of hiring, and had 10 LORs from UAL pilots. Never got an interview. Checked out the competition, guess what, it turns out they are still filling classes with white guys, just like they have been doing for the last 50 years.