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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2652385)
100% agreed, in fact I’d venture to say that Hawaii Den is one of the most brutal red eyes we fly. It’s right up there with NRT/ SIN or BKK which was always unaugmented. Are we even doing those NRT tags anymore? They SUKKED!
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Originally Posted by F15andMD11
(Post 2652481)
:confused: Sarcasm or were they really bad?
The layovers were great but those legs kind of sucked big time. |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2652385)
100% agreed, in fact I’d venture to say that Hawaii Den is one of the most brutal red eyes we fly. It’s right up there with NRT/ SIN or BKK which was always unaugmented. Are we even doing those NRT tags anymore? They SUKKED!
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2652267)
😄
I see your Air India job and raise it with a crappy old DC-8 flying non sched international for 10 hours. Then doing a Pt 91 reposition for another 8 hours with no breaks, no food, no glass, no sel call, no GPS, and a narcoleptic/alcoholic/geriatric flight engineer with a bad attitude. Well you may have me, but it would have been nice to be able to take a nap. FO to me: "mind if I take a nap." No problem. After awaking, Sir would you like to take a nap. Me:"not on your life." |
Originally Posted by YAKflyer
(Post 2652613)
Well you may have me, but it would have been nice to be able to take a nap.
FO to me: "mind if I take a nap." No problem. After awaking, Sir would you like to take a nap. Me:"not on your life." |
Originally Posted by BMEP100
(Post 2652070)
That was 20 years ago.
Swiss Air still does, btw. Fly it unaugmented. Anyway, circling back around to the original statement that I challenged (which opened up this entire thread derailment):
Originally Posted by 89Pistons
(Post 2651334)
A friend of mine commented that some of the augmented 756 routes out of EWR to Europe could do a lot of those trips un-augmented due to the 787's speed advantage. Didn't cross my mind until then. Then took a look at the Europe trips and their associated block time on the 756. Subtract 15-30 minutes off of the westbound portion and some of those routes could possibly fall into un-augmented territory (AMS, LHR, CDG). Hopefully the 787 routes that are announced don't fall there. If they do then the bid might not cause much chaos as many will avoid 2 man Atlantic flying.
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Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 2653219)
LCAL didn't fly TATL unaugmented for the last 20 years? I must've been in a Twilight Zone episode in late 2011 when I nonrevved EWR-CDG. I sat next to the deadheading third pilot who would be the IRO on the return trip and told me that this was a common practice and explained that it was cheaper to the company to deadhead him than fly the leg.
Deadhead paid blended rate in 2011, he wasn't making less than "on duty, as you put it. He may have been the IRO, talking to you about something in the past. |
Originally Posted by BMEP100
(Post 2653287)
Or maybe on the free first class sauce and confusing legend with reality. :confused:
Deadhead paid blended rate in 2011, he wasn't making less than "on duty, as you put it. He may have been the IRO, talking to you about something in the past. He sat there the entire flight so he definitely wasn't on duty. … did LCAL consider a non lie flat business class seat with no curtains to be adequate rest facilities? No matter; it was an uaugmented TATL flight flown in 2011 which was prior to CPDLC so it's not like a TATL today is more complex than a few years ago. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 2653302)
He sat there the entire flight so he definitely wasn't on duty. … did LCAL consider a non lie flat business class seat with no curtains to be adequate rest facilities?
Actually, thank to Jackson Martin, Tom Stivala, and the IAH scab contingent they considered a row in coach as an adequate rest facility. |
Originally Posted by Andy
(Post 2653302)
You're way too defensive. Since you've stated blended rate more than once, if the equipment paid higher than the blended rate, then, yes, it was saving the company money for him to deadhead rather than being the IRO.
He sat there the entire flight so he definitely wasn't on duty. … did LCAL consider a non lie flat business class seat with no curtains to be adequate rest facilities? No matter; it was an uaugmented TATL flight flown in 2011 which was prior to CPDLC so it's not like a TATL today is more complex than a few years ago. I recall lie flat seats weren't on the 757-200 till later. But it was a good story.
Originally Posted by JoePatroni
(Post 2653310)
Actually, thank to Jackson Martin, Tom Stivala, and the IAH scab contingent they considered a row in coach as an adequate rest facility.
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