Application Question
09-18-2018 | 06:47 AM
#11
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Just answer YES to the “any” question.
I’ve told this story on APC previously but here it is again as I personally witnessed a new-hire classmate being escorted off the property during indoc because the background check came back right after class started.
He thought his record was clean because a serious driving incident as a youngster had been expunged by the state due to being a first offense and good behavior (it was part of his sentencing). Thus, his printed record from the DMV was spotless.
He made a mistake starting out but clearly learned his lesson, moved on, and had a successful journey up the aviation food chain all the way to UA.
However, 10+ years later it was still in the database of the company that did background checks because they simply scooped up all public records in real time and didn’t expunge data later.
The drama went on for a couple days as flight ops wanted to keep him and UA legal wanted him gone. In the end, legal won.
I’ve told this story on APC previously but here it is again as I personally witnessed a new-hire classmate being escorted off the property during indoc because the background check came back right after class started.
He thought his record was clean because a serious driving incident as a youngster had been expunged by the state due to being a first offense and good behavior (it was part of his sentencing). Thus, his printed record from the DMV was spotless.
He made a mistake starting out but clearly learned his lesson, moved on, and had a successful journey up the aviation food chain all the way to UA.
However, 10+ years later it was still in the database of the company that did background checks because they simply scooped up all public records in real time and didn’t expunge data later.
The drama went on for a couple days as flight ops wanted to keep him and UA legal wanted him gone. In the end, legal won.
09-18-2018 | 06:53 AM
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On this topic, I have really been worried that my record might affect my app. Gone with Centerline Prep and they (Keith) did not voice any concerns (great experience with him BTW). I have 9 total tickets with 6 of them occurring within 30 days of each other (accident that lead to failure to yield, just had expired registration and inspection, not knowing I had a court date after I thought I paid it all off, so failure to appear... just 19 year old dumb kid logic). Anyways, now 9 years later and I am wondering from anyone who has been hired with a hand full of tickets, how big of a speed bump was that for you in the selection process. More importantly, how did it go in the interview? What I'm wondering here is how much they frown upon those teen years and if I should try to do things like attempt to get any expunged/dismissed? Last ticket is now over 4 years ago. Thank you very much for the replies!
They are concerned, however, about somebody that didn’t learn anything at 19 and is still having serious misadventures at age 30+.
09-18-2018 | 07:43 AM
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haha, yea I'm sure quite a bit of embarrassing explanations during the interview for the younger folks, so I guess an accident is not too bad. Thanks for the stories. Also, one final question is if UA ponders why you change/add incidents long after creating a profile... here's my story...
Got a call from a JP office a few months ago saying that I needed to pay this outstanding ticket, I say say from when? Answer, October 2008. Never remember getting pulled over but it was a long time ago. Her response was "yea, we are a little backed up"...NO SH#T, by 10 years!!! True story y'all. Anyways, I added it to my record but I update once a month, so the first year on Airline Apps it wasn't recorded and now it is. Thoughts? I'm probably overthinking it
Got a call from a JP office a few months ago saying that I needed to pay this outstanding ticket, I say say from when? Answer, October 2008. Never remember getting pulled over but it was a long time ago. Her response was "yea, we are a little backed up"...NO SH#T, by 10 years!!! True story y'all. Anyways, I added it to my record but I update once a month, so the first year on Airline Apps it wasn't recorded and now it is. Thoughts? I'm probably overthinking it
09-18-2018 | 07:53 AM
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haha, yea I'm sure quite a bit of embarrassing explanations during the interview for the younger folks, so I guess an accident is not too bad. Thanks for the stories. Also, one final question is if UA ponders why you change/add incidents long after creating a profile... here's my story...
Got a call from a JP office a few months ago saying that I needed to pay this outstanding ticket, I say say from when? Answer, October 2008. Never remember getting pulled over but it was a long time ago. Her response was "yea, we are a little backed up"...NO SH#T, by 10 years!!! True story y'all. Anyways, I added it to my record but I update once a month, so the first year on Airline Apps it wasn't recorded and now it is. Thoughts? I'm probably overthinking it
Got a call from a JP office a few months ago saying that I needed to pay this outstanding ticket, I say say from when? Answer, October 2008. Never remember getting pulled over but it was a long time ago. Her response was "yea, we are a little backed up"...NO SH#T, by 10 years!!! True story y'all. Anyways, I added it to my record but I update once a month, so the first year on Airline Apps it wasn't recorded and now it is. Thoughts? I'm probably overthinking it
Think big picture. They don't want applicants who have clean apps suddenly adding things like checkride busts, DUIs, 10s of speeding tickets, a felony conviction, etc AFTER they get called for the interview. One speeding ticket from 08 probably won't be an issue. If you want, you can address it up front
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09-18-2018 | 08:49 AM
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Had several tickets tickets through out my younger life . Various kinds and various levels of tickets (careless, Wreckless dropped to carelesset. , most of which I got withheld Adjudicated etc. no felony level tickets
However , went 10 years clean before my United interview.
Submitted “yes” to the ticket section, and explained very brief explanation. Was never asked once anything about them.
However , went 10 years clean before my United interview.
Submitted “yes” to the ticket section, and explained very brief explanation. Was never asked once anything about them.
10-06-2018 | 04:03 AM
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Application Question
Question: I finished doing the Hogan on Thursday, and my understanding is that they take a snapshot of your app afterwards.
I got an app review and it revealed very minor things to correct (e.g. a dot, a few change of words here and there.)
I do not need to actually add or remove anything. Just make these minute corrections if i want to.
My questions is: Once at the interview, are these the kind of changes that they want you to mark with the red pen?
Or
What wind of changes should I be concerned with?
Thanks!
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I got an app review and it revealed very minor things to correct (e.g. a dot, a few change of words here and there.)
I do not need to actually add or remove anything. Just make these minute corrections if i want to.
My questions is: Once at the interview, are these the kind of changes that they want you to mark with the red pen?
Or
What wind of changes should I be concerned with?
Thanks!
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10-06-2018 | 01:39 PM
#19
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From: Airbus 320 Right Seat
I had similar issues including my flight time being off . When I got there she said under a 100 hours don’t even mention it and anything major I could bring it up but not to be too stressed on it.
10-06-2018 | 09:11 PM
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It depends on when they pull and print your app.
In my case it was ~3 months between app pull and interview(I’m guessing they pull your app once you pass the Hogan)....so good thing I got there 30 min early and had time to adjust my flight times (rj guys can easily fly 250ish hours in that time)
In my case it was ~3 months between app pull and interview(I’m guessing they pull your app once you pass the Hogan)....so good thing I got there 30 min early and had time to adjust my flight times (rj guys can easily fly 250ish hours in that time)
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