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LJ Driver 09-22-2019 08:10 AM

Looking at this from a junior pilot perspective (without a class yet), I’m guessing that if someone gets a class soon, and the Max pipeline then restarts, there will be a deluge of additional junior pilots starting classes shortly after? Is there available throughput for that theory?

82spukram 09-22-2019 08:21 AM

LJ

The company seems to think that they have plenty of availability on the 737 side when it starts back up. The big question will be delivery schedule after the max return to service.

Good luck.

JetDoc 09-22-2019 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by LJ Driver (Post 2891378)
Looking at this from a junior pilot perspective (without a class yet), I’m guessing that if someone gets a class soon, and the Max pipeline then restarts, there will be a deluge of additional junior pilots starting classes shortly after? Is there available throughput for that theory?

As someone who was in one of the last groups to go through the 737 program as a new hire I would say yes. During training we were told that on any given day there were anywhere from 20-30 instructors on reserve and sim time was not much of a problem. In fact, the later in the day periods were not being used. The throughput is there in my opinion, they are just waiting for the MAX to come back.

NxNW 09-22-2019 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by LJ Driver (Post 2891378)
Looking at this from a junior pilot perspective (without a class yet), I’m guessing that if someone gets a class soon, and the Max pipeline then restarts, there will be a deluge of additional junior pilots starting classes shortly after? Is there available throughput for that theory?

Yeah, getting close to 4 months in the pool and it looks like it’ll be 6 before I’m out? I’m hoping they announce some November classes soon as I think I barely missed the 15 October class.

LJ Driver 09-22-2019 12:51 PM

Thanks, would you guys say that the Max is a senior FO airplane or something new-hires would be getting in their class drops?

Galaxy5 09-22-2019 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by LJ Driver (Post 2891481)
Thanks, would you guys say that the Max is a senior FO airplane or something new-hires would be getting in their class drops?

737 is all one category, so if you pick it, you’ll be flying -700, -800, -900, -900ER, Maxxx

LJ Driver 09-22-2019 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Galaxy5 (Post 2891548)
737 is all one category, so if you pick it, you’ll be flying -700, -800, -900, -900ER, Maxxx

Ah, ok got it. Thanks.

I'm going to continue peppering this board with questions... How senior is Houston? I currently live in Destin, FL and the old lady likes it (I do also). There are a few direct options to get to Houston, but not all that many. Wondering if it's feasible to expect it within a couple years or not?

Skip0927 09-22-2019 06:20 PM

Ah the old IAH dilemma. Is it possible in the first year, no. In first 5 years probably. The situation you will find yourself in is this. After a year on property in a junior, coastal domicile I can routinely hold 16+ days off and weekends off. I still cannot hold IAH. By the time I am eligible to hold IAH as a bottom of the barrel reserve guy, do I really want to? If you live in IAH, then reserve in base isnt bad. But commuting from Niceville to IAD/EWR and having a sweet schedule to then commute to IAH for a shorter commute only to be super junior isnt a winning combo in my mind. Just my 2 cents.

dynamo78 09-22-2019 07:05 PM

I feel like this thread was meant for posting CJO, class dates and assignment drops etc. Seems like a lot of questions should go somewhere else.

F15andMD11 09-22-2019 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by LJ Driver (Post 2891571)
...I currently live in Destin, FL and the old lady likes it (I do also)...

So you and your wife love Destin? Of course you do, who doesn’t? BUT...and you’re not going to want to hear this...working for UA and flying out of VPS will not be easy! For DL pilots sure, but not us. You’re looking at a 2 leg commute to reserve. With the first leg on an RJ!:eek: Connecting out of IAH to another hub (as with most hub to hub flts) will also be a stressful process. Flts are routinely full. IAH based, of course, would be ideal and you could score a base trade in your first year, as others have. Question, have you read up about life on reserve at UA? What you’re asking for will be an extended period of time on reserve.
Obviously you’re a mil dude. If you have a reserve job then you’re anchored. But if you’re retired...QOL may dictate a move. Your first year will not be easy, don’t get caught out of position!
Visiting the beach works for us.:cool:

Blackhawk 09-30-2019 10:27 AM

27 May CJO.
28 October BI.

flynd94 09-30-2019 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2895887)
27 May CJO.
28 October BI.

Welcome brother. Glad leaving Xjet worked out well for you. I will be in the TK thru 11/7 for fleet training

LJ Driver 09-30-2019 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 2891626)
So you and your wife love Destin? Of course you do, who doesn’t? BUT...and you’re not going to want to hear this...working for UA and flying out of VPS will not be easy! For DL pilots sure, but not us. You’re looking at a 2 leg commute to reserve. With the first leg on an RJ!:eek: Connecting out of IAH to another hub (as with most hub to hub flts) will also be a stressful process. Flts are routinely full. IAH based, of course, would be ideal and you could score a base trade in your first year, as others have. Question, have you read up about life on reserve at UA? What you’re asking for will be an extended period of time on reserve.
Obviously you’re a mil dude. If you have a reserve job then you’re anchored. But if you’re retired...QOL may dictate a move. Your first year will not be easy, don’t get caught out of position!
Visiting the beach works for us.:cool:

F15, thanks for the detailed response. I know it will absolutely be a pain in the ass, at least for awhile. I didn't realize that hub to hub flying was so full, figured the planes were usually bigger and more flights are transiting - good to know though. Has anyone done regular commuting on other airlines? Delta has a ton of flights from this area, and some go from Atlanta to United hubs. May be a decent option or at least a good backup.

You're right, I am mil - retired now, and very happy to be on with United in October. Moving is definitely an option for us, but I'm trying to see how much of an option staying here is also. As almost everyone states, living in your base gives you substantial QOL improvements, always. If only United would open VPS as a base... I might get here in about 15 years.

Blackhawk 09-30-2019 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by flynd94 (Post 2895904)
Welcome brother. Glad leaving Xjet worked out well for you. I will be in the TK thru 11/7 for fleet training

Thanks! Looking forward to it.
At the same time it won’t be easy leave my current employment. They were the ones who threw me a life line when employment options seemed dark and have always treated me well. I really assumed this was my last stop and would have been happy with that as well.

APC225 10-01-2019 07:40 AM

“Later this week United plans to introduce a redesigned and reinvigorated pilot recruiting and development program. We wanted to share this with you first before we announce it publicly.

As you know, with our growth plans and retirements, we need a strong pipeline of the best pilots. Together with your colleagues, Flight Ops, ALPA, HR and our United Express team, we’ve designed a program that offers more entry points, more development opportunities and a quicker and more transparent path to United, which will be industry leading. It’s a program designed to ensure we bring the highest quality talent in the marketplace to United flight decks versus our competitors.

You’ll see much more information soon, and many more exciting “announcements to follow later

APC225 10-01-2019 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2896395)
“Later this week United plans to introduce a redesigned and reinvigorated pilot recruiting and development program. We wanted to share this with you first before we announce it publicly.

As you know, with our growth plans and retirements, we need a strong pipeline of the best pilots. Together with your colleagues, Flight Ops, ALPA, HR and our United Express team, we’ve designed a program that offers more entry points, more development opportunities and a quicker and more transparent path to United, which will be industry leading. It’s a program designed to ensure we bring the highest quality talent in the marketplace to United flight decks versus our competitors.

You’ll see much more information soon, and many more exciting “announcements to follow later

Flow through?

JetDoc 10-01-2019 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2896396)
Flow through?

Sounds like that might be part of it.

luv757 10-01-2019 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2896396)
Flow through?

So long as no RJ scope changes .........

hreczko 10-02-2019 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by stoki (Post 2891302)
So basically CJO to recieving a class date is a guesstimate of 3-4 months and they give you roughly months notice? That sound about right?

There is a lot of spread in that bell curve. For example, there were about 25 of us who interviewed on the same day (April 13, 2019) and subsequently received CJOs. From there, there was a 2 month spread between when the first guy got a class invite to when the last guy did. I don't know the entire rack and stack methodology, but I am fairly certain the last 4 of your SSN plays into it significantly. Being in the pool 6 months is not out of the normal flow right now.

PrettyDarnGood 10-05-2019 05:09 PM

12 Jun 19 CJO
5 Nov 19 BI

dynamo78 10-06-2019 09:46 PM

12 June CJO
5 Nov BI class date.
Same as above

NxNW 10-09-2019 09:18 PM

Little late to post but just to help out those that are wondering.

30 May CJO
29 October BI

penaltybox 10-22-2019 03:40 AM

How often do they announce more interview dates? When I checked the site only 1 date was available.

Blackhawk 10-22-2019 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by penaltybox (Post 2910235)
How often do they announce more interview dates? When I checked the site only 1 date was available.

Not sure. But it was the same for me. I think within a few days there were more.

penaltybox 10-22-2019 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 2910295)
Not sure. But it was the same for me. I think within a few days there were more.

Do they send an email or did you have to constantly check?

Likesdaysoff 10-22-2019 07:50 AM

Anyone out there with a CJO that denied a UA pilot a Jumpseat waiting on a class date?

Just curious.

GoCats67 10-22-2019 11:19 AM

Flight Operations is pleased to announce that new-hire classes will occur on December 3 and 10, for approximately 40 pilots each.

Here is the current schedule of announced upcoming classes:

- October 28/29
- November 4/5
- November 11/12
- December 3
- December 10

GoCats67 10-26-2019 06:34 AM

Rumors of the waiting time in the CJO pool shrinking dramatically! Coupled with plans to hire 100 a month.

If true, then the interview group at UA is going to have to go into overdrive.

Check those emails....

flynd94 10-26-2019 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 2912875)
Rumors of the waiting time in the CJO pool shrinking dramatically! Coupled with plans to hire 100 a month.

If true, then the interview group at UA is going to have to go into overdrive.

Check those emails....

You should see the TK. It’s a beehive of activity. It seems interviews are either 2/3 times a week since I showed up. Great times and may they last.

cadetdrivr 10-26-2019 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 2912875)
Rumors of the waiting time in the CJO pool shrinking dramatically! Coupled with plans to hire 100 a month.

If true, then the interview group at UA is going to have to go into overdrive.

Yup.

I'm assuming that there was not that job advertisement on CCS for additional line pilot interviewers just because they were bored.

Pilot2016 10-26-2019 05:13 PM

October 9: CJO
December 3: Class Date with possibility of November 12.

thomjake1993 11-03-2019 02:59 AM

Interviewed October 24. December 10 class date

ERAUAV8TR 11-04-2019 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by thomjake1993 (Post 2916978)
Interviewed October 24. December 10 class date

Congrats...Stats?!?

thomjake1993 11-06-2019 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2917717)
Congrats...Stats?!?

121 CA, LCA and APD

4400TT
1380 JET PIC
1720 JET SIC
Bachelors Degree

Firefly899 11-06-2019 04:20 PM

Just got the call. Dec or Jan start. Im so happy that I dont know how to process it.

Triumph 11-06-2019 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Firefly899 (Post 2919333)
Just got the call. Dec or Jan start. Im so happy that I dont know how to process it.



That’s awesome.... congrats!


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xGearSlingerx 11-06-2019 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Firefly899 (Post 2919333)
Just got the call. Dec or Jan start. Im so happy that I dont know how to process it.

Congrats! I interview Friday morning, I hope to make the same post next Wednesday.

Firefly899 11-07-2019 02:51 AM

Best of luck. Be yourself.

jtbost 11-07-2019 04:19 AM

Congrats!! My daughter got assigned the December 10th class. Anybody in that class younger than 28?

horrido27 11-07-2019 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by jtbost (Post 2919562)
Congrats!! My daughter got assigned the December 10th class. Anybody in that class younger than 28?

These days.. couldn't it be-
"Anyone in that class OLDER than 28?"

All kidding aside
WELCOME!
Congrats on everyone getting on board. And if ya end up in EWR on the 756 (best kept secret out there), I'm sure we'll fly together and biers will always be on me~

[And in you got the dreaded TBNT email.. don't give up hope. With our hiring goals, you'll get another shot if ya want it. Sorry but don't give up the faith~]

Always
Motch


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