More e-mails out for the July class!

Here I come! (3/12 CJO)

Very excited to move up to the big league!

Congrats! 3/12 here as well and nothing today either. However class is determined I must be at the very back of the pack.

New Classes:

July 30

Aug 5/6

Aug 12/13

😀

Welcome to the party everyone!

Which July class?

Any idea how many are in the pool? Buddy of mine got the call last week. Can he expect 5-ish months based on current circumstances?

Thanks.

C17D

I doubt it, and in a good way.

There are now 3 classes for August and the word at TK this week is to expect that operational tempo until next summer. They are gonna operate the place at 100% capacity so hiring will be much stronger than this spring/summer.

There are 45 new Boeings coming in 2020 (and an unknown number of used sheet busses). Combine that with retirements and it's really the perfect storm. :)

[MENTION=32285]cadetdrivr[/MENTION]:
Are those 45 Boeings mainly replacements or growth?

Right now, 100% growth. But anything can change and those airplanes could easily become replacements.

It's currently 2 777, 15 787, and 28 B737. (source) There are also ~420 retirements in 2020.

However, it appears that UAL is very seriously planning on mainline growth. A new sim building is nearing completion in DEN and the next one after that is already planned.

Somebody in a cubicle at HQ is apparently expecting UAL to have more mainline pilots in the future, and the BOD has signed off on the $$$ for it.

All that said, I can't emphasize enough that the long term planning committee meets twice a day. We've all seen this movie before.

[MENTION=32285]cadetdrivr[/MENTION]:
Thanks for the insight, much appreciated!

For those of us new to the game...what does this mean? Not all of us have seen this movie...

It’s the airline business. “Plans” can change instantly in reaction to external (and internal) events.

Examples within the last 20 years, with some occurring more than once:
I'm not saying any of these will happen in the near term, but the last 75 years of airline history is one big example of constant changes to "plans."

If, for instance, Iran would shoot down a US drone in international water, attack shipping lanes, and oil prices spike...that could lead to plans changing

Yes, for instance.

Where did you hear 3 classes for August? Last I heard there were only 2?

Yes, the July 30th class is technically in July for the rest of the planet, but it's in the August "calendar month" at UAL.

(FWIW, prior to the recent update there was only one class in July.)

For anyone interested, please PM me your phone # so we can add you to the July 16 WhatsApp chat. Thanks!

16 July. Got the e-mail on Monday morning.

3/12 CJO and got the email for the July 30th class today!

That’s a long wait. I interviewed on a Tuesday, flew home that night. Next morning I was mowing the lawn and the phone rang. It was United, offering me a job and a class date in about a month.

Southwest, on the other hand, made me wait almost a month for my rejection letter.

It’s all timing I guess 🤷*♂️

Because Southwest has a review board that meets once a week to review applicants to give their stamp of approval or not. At United your fate is decided after the pilot interviewer walks you back to the lobby go goes back into interview room. It's a simple thumbs up or thumbs down with the HR lady.

Not true, United also has a review board.

That also meets once a week. I believe on Wednesdays.


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True but not just for determining a yes or no.. Had an interviewer on my jumpseat that told me it's a simple thumbs up or down.

:roll my eyes: not true.

But they do consider their input.

That’s probably because they felt your interview was inspiring. Mowing lawns one day to getting hired by the majors. Just like Kurt Warner bagging groceries to Super Bowl MVP. :)

4/16 CJO hoping for the last August class. It seems like the email that notifies you of your class date is almost exactly 30 days out. Is that the norm? Did anyone else out there get the email today?
Thanks for the info everyone. This forum is very helpful.

Funny, but is was my lawn. Now if I was working for a lawn service then went to a major, that would be inspiring😀!

There are still pilots out on Furlough bypass. They can stay out for a total of 10 years from their date of furlough. The last furlough was in Nov 2009, so their 10 year mark is coming up soon.

That matters because those pilots only need to give UA 30 days of notice of their desire to return. So, UA will wait until 30 days prior to a class date to invite New Hires, as at that point in time they know how many slots in the class will be filled by furlough returns.

The number of these folks that remain out is less than 50, and while we definitely would welcome them back, I don't consider it likely that many of those that remain out right now will actually be coming back.

Until we get to the November and beyond classes, this 30 day notice will be the norm.

Were you an out-of-cycle hire? Everyone that interviewed with me the week of 4/9 got the call on 4/17 or 18. I’d not heard of anyone receiving a Tuesday CJO.

.....filler

Might be a long shot on this one. Plenty of March and early April CJOs still waiting.

Chief Pilot’s interview
 

I did the Chief Pilot’s interview in April and received a favorable recommendation. Since then I’ve heard nothing from HR? Anybody got any info on interviews or have interviewed recently?

I had a meet & greet with a CP in February. I also received a favorable recommendation, but have yet to hear anything from HR. While I’m hopeful because I feel that I have a competitive application/resume a successful meeting doesn’t guarantee anything will come from Denver...

Well I’m glad I’m not alone. Thanks.

My bad. I checked my email, the CJO is 4/17. Thanks for all the good info everyone.

I did a CPO interview Feb of 2018....had the real interview Aug of 2018. Just a data point.

FWIW, UAL is spooling up for an absolutely massive wave of hiring starting in August. The training center is scheduled for 100% capacity and hiring will be coordinated to ensure every slot is filled.

Sitting at home waiting for the call is nerve wracking, but when the call comes suddenly things will look much brighter.

:)

So was 3/27 the latest CJO to make it in to the 8/6 class or did any 4/9 CJOs make it?