Class Dates/CJOs
08-30-2019 | 08:35 AM
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I thought I had subdued it over the past 23+ years of moving all over the country with the military and civilian jobs...but to someone from Tennessee, I probably still have the accent somewhat.
My better half...now that's a case of you can take the girl out of Jersey, but not the Jersey out of the girl. I swear Marisa Tomei's character in My Cousin Vinnie is based on her...she will NEVER lose the accent.
Regardless, hope nobody holds my Jersey background against me...we really aren't like characters out of 'Jersey Shore.' Well, most of us anyway.
Just glad to be here, boss!
08-30-2019 | 06:07 PM
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09-13-2019 | 04:48 AM
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Nope.
FYI, UAL typically has only been announcing class dates about a month in advance, both to account for furlough returns and closely match training capacity to class size. Thus, no word on Nov and Dec yet.
FWIW, the last furlough bypasses will expire in November so that will stop being a factor soon.
And on top of it all, the 737 MAX fiasco has disrupted everything.
FYI, UAL typically has only been announcing class dates about a month in advance, both to account for furlough returns and closely match training capacity to class size. Thus, no word on Nov and Dec yet.
FWIW, the last furlough bypasses will expire in November so that will stop being a factor soon.
And on top of it all, the 737 MAX fiasco has disrupted everything.
09-13-2019 | 08:39 AM
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Nope.
FYI, UAL typically has only been announcing class dates about a month in advance, both to account for furlough returns and closely match training capacity to class size. Thus, no word on Nov and Dec yet.
FWIW, the last furlough bypasses will expire in November so that will stop being a factor soon.
And on top of it all, the 737 MAX fiasco has disrupted everything.
FYI, UAL typically has only been announcing class dates about a month in advance, both to account for furlough returns and closely match training capacity to class size. Thus, no word on Nov and Dec yet.
FWIW, the last furlough bypasses will expire in November so that will stop being a factor soon.
And on top of it all, the 737 MAX fiasco has disrupted everything.
Any guess how many on furlough will take the last call and return?
09-13-2019 | 12:56 PM
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From the August ALPA System Schedule Committee Report:
My personal guess based on the trend for the year: virtually everybody that wants to return either has returned or is sitting in a class. It's pretty much a non-factor at this late date.
New Hire/ Furloughed Returning Pilots Plan
In addition, to the July and August classes already planned, one newly announced additional September NH/FR class is scheduled.
Additionally, the company will most likely have additional classes throughout the winter. These will be confirmed approaching each bid period as the manpower need and/or training availability is determined.
As of August 13th, there have been 567 New Hires and 33 Furlough returns for a total of 600 in the 2019 year.
The remaining furloughees are hitting their contractual 10-year limits, and many have already fallen off the list with more furloughees approaching this limit in the coming months.
Furloughees must inform the company of their intent to return 30 days prior to any specific class date that starts before their 10-year end date. 63 have not returned before their 10-year end date expired this year and have fallen off the list.
There are now 35 remaining extended furloughed pilots on the list with various 10-year expiration dates thru November 10th 2019.
In addition, to the July and August classes already planned, one newly announced additional September NH/FR class is scheduled.
Additionally, the company will most likely have additional classes throughout the winter. These will be confirmed approaching each bid period as the manpower need and/or training availability is determined.
As of August 13th, there have been 567 New Hires and 33 Furlough returns for a total of 600 in the 2019 year.
The remaining furloughees are hitting their contractual 10-year limits, and many have already fallen off the list with more furloughees approaching this limit in the coming months.
Furloughees must inform the company of their intent to return 30 days prior to any specific class date that starts before their 10-year end date. 63 have not returned before their 10-year end date expired this year and have fallen off the list.
There are now 35 remaining extended furloughed pilots on the list with various 10-year expiration dates thru November 10th 2019.
My personal guess based on the trend for the year: virtually everybody that wants to return either has returned or is sitting in a class. It's pretty much a non-factor at this late date.
09-13-2019 | 03:59 PM
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Right to come back.
09-13-2019 | 07:03 PM
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09-22-2019 | 04:27 AM
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FWIW, CJO-to-class times would have been currently less absent the 737 MAX fiasco so that's the number that has the greatest variability.
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