Crj 550
#71
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The economics of the CRJ 200 are really bad, it wouldn't surprise me one bit that a 50 seat 700 is cheaper to operate. Obviously a 70 seat CRJ7 is better than a 50 seat CRJ7, but I would say with the premium seats, the CRJ7 at 50 easily beats a CRJ2. The fuel burn difference is only around 10%.
#72
Cancelling new 737 that were cheaper than a brand new E175, burn a few hundred pounds an hour more but carry 50 more pax, plus cargo never did make sense to me. But we know the true motive behind the cancellation was not the same “old” technology that is in the dozens of owned and soon to be delivered UCH E175’s, rather it was his way to apply his finger prints on his new employer and those on the other side of the table.
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The economics of the CRJ 200 are really bad, it wouldn't surprise me one bit that a 50 seat 700 is cheaper to operate. Obviously a 70 seat CRJ7 is better than a 50 seat CRJ7, but I would say with the premium seats, the CRJ7 at 50 easily beats a CRJ2. The fuel burn difference is only around 10%.
Lemme do some math seventy, divide by 50.... something like 1.4 yeah. I can’t speak to casm, but with respect to fasm (or gasm if you will), the 50 seater 200, and the 700 with 70 seats are nearly the same.
With 50 seats in it, the 700 should have approximately the fuel efficiency of a convair 880.
#74
I think the heartburn from this is the company’s willingness to invest in an outsourced product, while having a viable (according to the union) alternative in-house.
While we may be far removed from the toxic environment of the Tilton era, this announcement is a sobering one, remind us we are far from strategic harmony with management. They are/will continue to treat this relationship like Hyman Roth. And so should we.
While we may be far removed from the toxic environment of the Tilton era, this announcement is a sobering one, remind us we are far from strategic harmony with management. They are/will continue to treat this relationship like Hyman Roth. And so should we.
#76
Replacing the god-awful CRJ200 and ERJ145 with these makes good sense, 10FC, 20+ and 20 economy.
Seat map
https://hub.united.com/united-more-p...628095340.html
Seat map
https://hub.united.com/united-more-p...628095340.html
Replacing them would be amazing....but they're not. They're simply re-purposing higher capacity aircraft into a lower unfilled category called the 50 seater.
Next announcement prediction: We pull all the ex-XJT ERJ-135s out of the desert and re-configure them to be 16 seaters. The "new" jet will offer a pre-departure magic show, all first class lie-flat seats, with 8 closets, self service galley, WiFi, DirecTV, SiriusXM, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Roku and of course, Hulu. Embraer will happily re-certify the jet with no flight attendant thereby saving "substantial sums" by having the F/O assume those duties. UAL stock climbs $18. The moans of Wall Street will be deafening as they all collectively climax at Kirby's genius. There will be a line of shareholders, & analysts lined up on Wacker Drive all waiting for the privilege of servicing him.
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......Next announcement prediction: We pull all the ex-XJT ERJ-135s out of the desert and re-configure them to be 16 seaters. The "new" jet will offer a pre-departure magic show, all first class lie-flat seats, with 8 closets, self service galley, WiFi, DirecTV, SiriusXM, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Roku and of course, Hulu. Embraer will happily re-certify the jet with no flight attendant thereby saving "substantial sums" by having the F/O assume those duties. UAL stock climbs $18. The moans of Wall Street will be deafening as they all collectively climax at Kirby's genius. There will be a line of shareholders, & analysts lined up on Wacker Drive all waiting for the privilege of servicing him.
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