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03-19-2019, 06:34 AM
#111
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Position: Boeing right seat
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Originally Posted by oldmako
...would you rather fly with a 12,000-hour re-tread from some forgettable 121 Non-Sked or a guy with a degree and no time in anything bigger than a Seneca?
I'll take option 3: the 12,000 hour pilot with a degree and tons of turbine time.
Getting a degree these days is about as easy as it ever has been.
03-19-2019, 08:04 AM
#112
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Position: 777
Posts: 2,158
Originally Posted by Learflyer
Who remembers the days pre-internet? When you actually had to send a typewritten letter to the major airlines to request a paper application. Did the application say 'college degree required?' Probably.
It was not a nice place to work after the strike, Ferris was there but on his way out. Lots of things different, but no requirement to have the degree, BUT, still, everyone had one.
03-19-2019, 08:40 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs
to your chagrin apparently.
And I know a whole lot of really dumb “smart” people so 4 years at an institution may or may not equal measurable intelligence but yes it is highly preferred for this job as established by the majority of the posts here.
And I know a whole lot of really dumb “smart” people so 4 years at an institution may or may not equal measurable intelligence but yes it is highly preferred for this job as established by the majority of the posts here.
You are correct that it does not state "required" on the hiring requirements.... that is a head scratcher.
Pest
03-19-2019, 08:50 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by oldmako
You're mostly correct. But, United has hired guys without a degree so your declarative statement about interviewing without one isn't absolute.
Now, if you were hired at CAL and then subsequently merged with UAL that would make sense. Or perhaps you were a ramp employee with a guaranteed interview.... that might make sense.
But to be plucked from the pool or applicants without a degree is not possible (or shouldn't be).
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03-19-2019, 11:36 AM
#115
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Posts: 332
Originally Posted by skypest
I just have a incredibly hard time believing this. I know there are some unicorns in our mix but to be selected from the applicant pool without a degree should not be a possibility.
Now, if you were hired at CAL and then subsequently merged with UAL that would make sense. Or perhaps you were a ramp employee with a guaranteed interview.... that might make sense.
But to be plucked from the pool or applicants without a degree is not possible (or shouldn't be).
Pest
Now, if you were hired at CAL and then subsequently merged with UAL that would make sense. Or perhaps you were a ramp employee with a guaranteed interview.... that might make sense.
But to be plucked from the pool or applicants without a degree is not possible (or shouldn't be).
Pest
03-19-2019, 01:07 PM
#116
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Position: A320 Captain
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Originally Posted by IAHB756
I believe CAL was even more strict regarding the degree. Recommended a guy who had an engineering degree from France. He completed it in 3 years and they only wanted to give him credit for having an associate degree. He had to have the university send a certified letter with his credit hours and the equivalence to U.S engineering degree etc. He ended up at Delta.
03-19-2019, 02:32 PM
#117
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
If you surveyed the number of CAL guys without a degree vs UAL..I think CAL would win hands down. Not sure where you could find that info...purely anecdotal.
03-19-2019, 02:52 PM
#118
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Originally Posted by Ni hao
One from our class was let go about his 10th month in. We all called it in INDOC. He was under 30 and had a big attitude.
03-19-2019, 03:22 PM
#119
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
What 20-something year old would go to United with an attitude? What a dumb@ss, blowing a 35+ yr career away.
And it's not that far removed from a ATP aged 23-65 that is shocked and upset that major airlines very strongly prefer 4-year college degrees.
Who ever heard of such a thing and why didn't anybody ever tell them?
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