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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Freight Dawg
No it's not. It's a question from the "me" generation. With all respect to the original poster, I'm surprised this was even asked. The general lack of courtesy today amazes me. Pony up and get a hotel room. It was your choice to travel standby.
Certainly a valid opinion, but pretty harsh. And I’m a 24 year guy, so no millennial here. Personally, I’ve seen lots of wives and kids in the TV room through the years. As long as they’re quiet, and don’t take the remote to watch cartoons, most I would guess wouldn’t have an issue. However, the sleep room is a totally different animal. That is for crew only. Hope this helps.
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:20 AM
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Freight Dawg
No it's not. It's a question from the "me" generation. With all respect to the original poster, I'm surprised this was even asked. The general lack of courtesy today amazes me. Pony up and get a hotel room. It was your choice to travel standby.
Not so good with reading comprehension? Or do you just lack experience with traveling with children? And any semblance of empathy.

Its 1 in the morning. You've been bumped. Which happens. And we all have to live with it. You've got the wife and a couple of kids under 10 who are all tired and cranky. You need a place to rest. /sarcasm A hotel rooms sounds perfect./sarcasm off Drag your kids out to the curb, wait for the shuttle, slog over to the hotel, check in, slog up to the room. Who _cares_ what the cost is. Even if they're giving them away for free. now its 2am. The kids are out. But you better not be. Because you have to be in line at security at 6. Which means in three hours you need to be vertical, and ready to slog them back down stairs, back onto the van, stand in line at security, and schlep them back down to the gate to be there an hour before departure on the first flight of the day.

A hotel room isn't ideal. Even a free one. A couch in a quiet corner is what a family needs when you're stuck in an airport for less than 6 hours. The crew room would be the ideal place for that rest. You would almost certainly not be bothering anyone. Certainly no pilots would be using the crew room for their legally required pre-duty rest period, right?

That it is an ideal location, and you are unlikely to disturb anyone does not make it any more allowable - there have been several notices given out that families are not allowed in crew rooms at any time. But if you haven't seen such a notice, it is a reasonable question to ask.

You're rude. A jerk. And a generational bigot. Go pound sand.
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by robthree
Not so good with reading comprehension? Or do you just lack experience with traveling with children? And any semblance of empathy.

Its 1 in the morning. You've been bumped. Which happens. And we all have to live with it. You've got the wife and a couple of kids under 10 who are all tired and cranky. You need a place to rest. A hotel rooms sounds perfect. Drag your kids out to the curb, wait for the shuttle, slog over to the hotel, check in, slog up to the room. Who _cares_ what the cost is. Even if they're giving them away for free. now its 2am. The kids are out. But you better not be. Because you have to be in line at security at 6. Which means in three hours you need to be vertical, and ready to slog them back down stairs, back onto the van, stand in line at security, and schlep them back down to the gate to be there an hour before departure on the first flight of the day.

A hotel room isn't ideal. Even a free one. A couch in a quiet corner is what a family needs when you're stuck in an airport for less than 6 hours. The crew room would be the ideal place for that rest. You would almost certainly not be bothering anyone. Certainly no pilots would be using the crew room for their legally required pre-duty rest period, right?

That it is an ideal location, and you are unlikely to disturb anyone does not make it any more allowable - there have been several notices given out that families are not allowed in crew rooms at any time. But if you haven't seen such a notice, it is a reasonable question to ask.

You're rude. A jerk. And a generational bigot. Go pound sand.
That still sounds entitled. I got a wife and 2 young kids too, never been stuck at 2am at an airport because I do my best to make sure they don't end up in that position. If it's holidays or what I think is a busy travel season, I buy tickets. If I nonrev with them, I make sure to check for decent loads and multiple options out of that airport.



"A couch in a quiet corner is what a family needs when you're stuck in an airport for less than 6 hours. The crew room would be the ideal place for that rest."

What the family needed was you to pony up and buy tickets when the loads were that bad you faced being stranded. The crew room is for crews. Define "ideal place." If you're that stranded guy with family, I guess your ideal place is the crew room. If there's a crew member resting in the crew room just looking for peace and quiet, then his ideal place for YOU would be a hotel or upstairs on the chairs like the rest of society.

Your 'baggage' and lack of planning shouldn't involve using company rest facilities in order to cheapen out even more. (Didn't buy tickets, don't want a hotel room, and don't want to sleep on chairs like the rest of the flying public).
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:27 AM
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Yes you are.

Millennials, also known as Generation Y or Gen Y, are the demographic cohort following Generation X and preceding Generation Z. Researchers and popular media typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years.
Not to speak for Guppydriver95 but I read that as he’s been at United for 24 years. Not that he’s 24 years old. Hence the 95 in his username.
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:31 AM
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"- there have been several notices given out that families are not allowed in crew rooms at any time. "


LOL
How sad. Threads like these why the notices have to be sent in the first place.





Originally Posted by JayD
Not to speak for Guppydriver95 but I read that as he’s been at United for 24 years. Not that he’s 24 years old. Hence the 95 in his username.
Oops! I see, I'll edit it. I read it as a 24 yr old. My bad
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:34 AM
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When my kids were young, the only standby we would fly were short trips. We never put ourselves in a position to get overnight at the airport. I'm FAR from a company guy. But OPS is a place of business. It's not appropriate to use it as day care center. About two weeks ago I saw what I presume was a pilot pushing a stroller down to operations. Really?!? I might have come across as harsh, but I'm constantly amazed at how people are acting as of late. The behavior of PAX, dressed in sweats, with poorly behaved kids in first class. People yelling into their phones while facetiming, etc. I know I'm coming across as a grumpy old fart, but common courtesy is out the window as of late. It's not a matter of not pass traveling, it's a matter of not putting yourself in a poor situation. Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by robthree
Not so good with reading comprehension?... You're rude. A jerk. And a generational bigot. Go pound sand.
I rest my case
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Old 04-05-2019 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JayD
Not to speak for Guppydriver95 but I read that as he’s been at United for 24 years. Not that he’s 24 years old. Hence the 95 in his username.

Correct, Jay. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old 04-05-2019 | 10:09 AM
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Maybe I'm a crabby old man but you work for a legacy airline. Spend some of that money and buy your family a ticket next time. For cripes sake. Trying to non rev with kids these days is irresponsible. This aint like back in the day when load factors were 80-90% today everything is full all the time.
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