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That's a fair point. On the other hand, history is full of examples of people standing up for what they perceived to be an injustice to themselves. Even when that means standing up right in the heat of the moment and facing arrest.
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I really hope you're not implying the Civil Rights movement.
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I mean in general. Anytime someone feels like what’s happening to them isn’t fair or unjust.
Remember, we have pax bill of rights and the 3 hr rule came out when far too many airlines (and in cases, the CA) thought it was better to keep people locked on a plane for endless hours and sometimes overnight.
Remember, we have pax bill of rights and the 3 hr rule came out when far too many airlines (and in cases, the CA) thought it was better to keep people locked on a plane for endless hours and sometimes overnight.
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You've got some anger issues man. Relax.
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No. They were working another flight that got in late and scheduled to deadhead on that flight. They ran over to the new gate but because they were late their seats were given away. They were scheduled to work the first flight the next day from SDF-ORD. If they missed the deadhead the flight in the morning would have cancelled due to not having enough rest.
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I think I remember reading he took the offer and deplaned..only to change his mind and bolt back down to the plane, assaulting a gate agent. Is that how a rational adult, a doctor no less, behaves?
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United Airlines didn’t beat this guy up, although they can fairly be accused of contracting out their work without providing adequate guidance on how to address a situation like this.
The contract airline didn’t beat this guy up, although they can fairly be criticized for requesting law enforcement intervention when a more generous compensatory offer would likely have found another willing volunteer.
The cops didn’t beat this guy up although questions should be asked about whether the use of contract security in place of law enforcement followed established guidelines and whether those guidelines were or are appropriate.
Airport security didn’t beat this guy up. (Watch the video.) They explained to him that they were there to remove him from the flight and recommended it would be best for him to come peaceably. He clung onto the seat and screamed and when they pried him loose, he flew across the aisle and hit his face on an armrest.
This guy didn’t deserve to get hurt. But he is a shady dude with a troubled background who acted like a jack@ss. Yes, his ticket entitled him to get to his destination but so did everyone else’s and I can all but guarantee you had it been anyone else on that plane that had been selected for removal that day it never would have developed into a news story.
This was a perfect storm of events. There were as many chances on the part of airport and airline personnel to avoid this as there were for Dao himself to behave like an adult. He got his money. Let him go off and dump it into whatever shady enterprise he wants to blow it on. He can go ahead and try to drum up some fresh sympathy from the uninformed masses, but they never really cared about him to begin with and are now too fully engaged in today’s exciting new cause celebre to care about a drug dealing sexual harasser who’s sitting on a few million from a major airline lawsuit. We learned some lessons. Hopefully we’re better off for it. His 15 minutes are over. Move on.
The contract airline didn’t beat this guy up, although they can fairly be criticized for requesting law enforcement intervention when a more generous compensatory offer would likely have found another willing volunteer.
The cops didn’t beat this guy up although questions should be asked about whether the use of contract security in place of law enforcement followed established guidelines and whether those guidelines were or are appropriate.
Airport security didn’t beat this guy up. (Watch the video.) They explained to him that they were there to remove him from the flight and recommended it would be best for him to come peaceably. He clung onto the seat and screamed and when they pried him loose, he flew across the aisle and hit his face on an armrest.
This guy didn’t deserve to get hurt. But he is a shady dude with a troubled background who acted like a jack@ss. Yes, his ticket entitled him to get to his destination but so did everyone else’s and I can all but guarantee you had it been anyone else on that plane that had been selected for removal that day it never would have developed into a news story.
This was a perfect storm of events. There were as many chances on the part of airport and airline personnel to avoid this as there were for Dao himself to behave like an adult. He got his money. Let him go off and dump it into whatever shady enterprise he wants to blow it on. He can go ahead and try to drum up some fresh sympathy from the uninformed masses, but they never really cared about him to begin with and are now too fully engaged in today’s exciting new cause celebre to care about a drug dealing sexual harasser who’s sitting on a few million from a major airline lawsuit. We learned some lessons. Hopefully we’re better off for it. His 15 minutes are over. Move on.
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The takeaway now seems to be, if someone refuses to get off for whatever reason, deplane the entire aircraft. That person will likely deplane with everyone else and then the issue can be resolved in the gate area.
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