Does anyone know if there was truth to the rumor that the express pilots that were put on that flight last minute (causing the bumps) were actually being sent by Republic to cover a flight on the Delta side of their operation?

 

This thread is an embarrassment. None of you are representing pilots well. Then you all whine about why the general public hates us. Crap like this is why. News flash no one feels sorry for United. They feel sorry for Dao.

Dao has been through enough. None of you need to keep dragging him through the mud because he got the best of this company you apparently love. Which like every other airline would throw you under the bus in 2 seconds if you screwed up or it saved them money.

I don't work for United.

 

Act like a civilized citizen, instead of a wild animal, and you don't get dragged off an airplane, period. Respect authority and ask questions later, file your lawsuit, etc. Why is that so hard to comprehend for people in today's society? Oh, I know why, because it's all about me me me....

Everyone in public hates pilots? Hmmm....first time I've heard that one. Sounds like you have an amazing personality. It's great that you don't fly for United, because a 4 day with you would be miserable, based on your attitude.

 

Nice authoritarian stance. I bet $1000 if you were a paying passenger you wouldn't quietly give up your seat and "ask questions later".

Get some new material. That's one of the oldest insults on here. If you don't think the general public thinks pilots are a bunch of lazy whiny overpaid prima donnas try reading some passenger message boards. If you don't like my posts, feel free to ***.

 

You bet your a$# we would comply. We'd be ticked ("we" as in normal, grown up adults) but we wouldn't wait till they have to call the cops.

Sounds like you'd be a difficult passenger.

 

Everybody's got a price when it comes to travel. So yes, it would have worked out with certainty. Just up the $$$ offered and someone would have taken it.


What about your company responsibility? If I'm a paying customer who is already on the plane (already boarded), then don't throw the denied boarding clauses at me. Those were for when we're still up at the gate. It's not my problem one of your flights tomorrow needs a crew. That's your problem, not mine. I paid for my travel today. If you're gonna deny that, then I want more than $800.

 

I would if the police came and asked me to leave. That’s a lawful order and I would comply, not resist or cry like a whiny brat.

Afterwords it can be settled in the courts. That’s how this is supposed to work.

United didn’t beat the crap out of him, the Chicago police did because he wasn’t complying with lawful orders. The rest is Facebook/Twitter outrage.

 

Except for the part that they weren't actually real police officers. And the fact they were fired afterwards.







"But on Wednesday, more than three months after the episode, the Chicago Department of Aviation conceded that their security officers were not actually police officers and that the uniforms had been “improperly” marked. It vowed to remove the word from uniforms, vehicles and other insignia in the coming months."



Under a new “directive,” airport security officers like those who removed the passenger, Dr. David Dao, will be sent onto planes only to respond to a disturbance when Chicago Police requests them. A city ordinance that will go into effect this month will also — with a few exceptions — prevent security officers from removing passengers from an aircraft, said Lauren Huffman, a spokeswoman for the Chicago Department of Aviation.


“Really, it should be law enforcement that is boarding a plane in most situations,” Ms. Huffman said in a telephone interview. “There perhaps was some internal confusion of roles,” she said, citing the old policy documents. “And we want to be clear to the public.”






This is all according to a quarterly report by Inspector General Joe Ferguson, who outlines what caused them to get fired. According to the Chicago Sun Times:

The first officer was accused of violating the Department of Aviation’s use of force policy when he “escalated a non-threatening situation into a physically violent one by forcefully removing a passenger from the aircraft.”

“The ASO’s use of excessive force caused the passenger to hit his face on an armrest, resulting in the passenger sustaining a concussion, a broken nose and the loss of teeth,” Ferguson wrote.

The second officer was accused of making “misleading statements in two reports.” The third officer was accused of making “material omissions in a report regarding the first” officer’s forceful removal of Dao.

“The investigation further established that the sergeant deliberately removed material facts from the third” officer’s `To/From Report’ and approved reports without all essential information,” the inspector general said.

 

Ok. They weren't police officers. But any reasonable person would assume they were due to their uniforms.

Again. Comply today. Find a good lawyer first thing in the morning.

 

I know more than a few people who have “screwed up” and NONE of them got “thrown under the bus.” Try again.